I usually don’t go to the movies so I’m always the last to see anything. Just saw Kill Bill 1 and I’ve got a few questions. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Quentin Tarantino wasn’t thinking about actual, real-life logic when he made the film, but I’d like to see people’s take on these points.
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[li]Where’d The Bride get the money to carry out her vengeance?– Nameless, comatose people usually don’t have enough cash to hop on a plane to Japan.[/li][li]Was the guy who killed O-ren’s father Bill?– My husband seems to think so. I’m not sure.[/li][li]Why is everyone convinced Bill gets killed?– I haven’t seen Vol 2 yet and I’d like not to get spoiled too much. But it takes me so long to see movies I usually know a few things about them before I see them. I’d rather not know ahead of time if she does or doesn’t kill him. But there seemed to be little doubt that The Bride does kill Bill in the end even before anyone saw the end.[/li][li]I wonder if American Harvester paid product placement fees for The Bride In Yellow.[/li][/ol]
Her work as an assassin would’ve earned her “vast sums of money”, as Bill says in Volume 2.
I’m not sure on that either, but the assassin certainly resembles him to a decent degree.
The movie is called Kill Bill…
Your guess is as good as mine!
Kill Bill is her quest. It doesn’t mean she actually does get her revenge at the end. I mean, it was called Get Smart but nobody ever did.
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[ul][li]Where’d The Bride get the money to carry out her vengeance?– Nameless, comatose people usually don’t have enough cash to hop on a plane to Japan.[/li][/QUOTE]
In the original script, Budd had a lot of cash that she used for clothes and stuff, then she made a stop at the bank and got four safety deposit boxes, three of which were filled with nothing but cash (fourth was fake passports and licenses). I assume QT just decided this was all a moot point or something.
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[li]Was the guy who killed O-ren’s father Bill?– My husband seems to think so. I’m not sure.[/li][/QUOTE]
Personally, after having taken a good look at the guy who did, I think it was indeed Bill. Same hairstyle, same hand full of rings, obviously quite a bit younger and ‘anime-ized’ though.
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[li]Why is everyone convinced Bill gets killed?– I haven’t seen Vol 2 yet and I’d like not to get spoiled too much. But it takes me so long to see movies I usually know a few things about them before I see them. I’d rather not know ahead of time if she does or doesn’t kill him. But there seemed to be little doubt that The Bride does kill Bill in the end even before anyone saw the end.[/li][/QUOTE]
Well, mainly because the title of the movie is Kill Bill and this isn’t a movie with twist endings or the like. It’s a straight on revenge flick, meaning the ending’s pretty assured, it’s how it always works in this genre (unless the director’s feeling experimental, which QT wasn’t in many cases.)
No clue. 
I assumed that since she was an assasin, she probably had a lot of money in a bank account somewhere, and since she was still alive, it would still be there when she awoke, with 4 years of interest accrued. Apparently Bill had no interest in robbing her while she slept.
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[li]Was the guy who killed O-ren’s father Bill?– My husband seems to think so. I’m not sure.[/list][/li][/QUOTE]
My mom thought so. It would make it interesting if O-Ren went to work for the guy who killed her father…but apparently she never knew. Was she in any postion to see his face from under the bed?
Actually, the big question I had was: The Bride escapes from her hospital room and is sitting in Budd’s car for 13, apparently. Wouldn’t somebody have noticed the fact there are 2 dead guys and a missing patient in her hospital room by that time and call the cops? I’m kind of suprised they wouldn’t be be looking for Budd’s car, which is rather hard to miss.
You mean Buck the Fuck, right? Not only does she sit in it for 13 hours without anybody noticing, she apparently left it in long term parking at the airport for at least a month and nobody noticed the Pussywagon.
There is a Budd on her list. He’s the guy who says The Bride deserves her revenge and they all deserve to die.
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My question is this: When the Bride walks through the Tokyo airport, she passes in front of a large cigarette ad featuring a smoking woman. I might be crazy, but was that woman Sophie Fatale?
Yeah, that would be her.
Also, in my previous reply, when I said Budd, I meant Buck. Memory’s going already I guess… :smack:
Buck, right. Sorry about that.
That also struck me as rather implausible.
Another question for all:
Did anyone else think it strange that Vivica A. Fox, who was once a deadly assassin, was such a lousy shot in the opening fight sequence? You woulda thunk she could have hit Uma from such close range, despite the box of cereal. Otherwise, why take the shot at all?
Also, I noticed Buck’s car was dripping something, but the puddle was incredibly small for something that had to be dripping for 13 hours. Unless the Bride just went to the can in the back seat, but let’s not thing about that.
This, like the fact nobody bothered to check Buck’s car, or the fact she killed one man simply by biting off his bottom lip, are just some of those things you just except and move on.
I never thought about Bill being the one who killed O’Ren’s father. It seems kinda unplausible that she never would have found out, though. At a really young age, it didn’t take her long to infiltrate and kill the head of a yakuza family (who would have supposedly been Bill’s boss).
The man who killed O-Ren’s father was definitely NOT Bill, he was a Japanese Yakuza boss whose name escapes me. O-Ren extracts her revenge at the age of 11 by killing him. How could The Bride kill Bill if O-Ren already did? In the movie O-Ren is 25 and working for Bill when the attempt on The Bride’s life is made.
Oh duh, I just realised that it wasn’t the boss who killed O-Ren’s father at all. It is plausible that it was Bill who killed O-Ren’s father, although somehow I don’t think so.
That ad is also a reference back to Pulp Fiction. Red Apples are the same brand that Butch (Bruce Willis) smokes.
Umm… All the cereal in the box deflected the bullet?
How do we he was dead?
Also, wasn’t it his tongue?
Building on problems with the Vivica Fox fight, Bride’s to-do list suggests Fox was killed after Bride had been to Japan, gotten her super-sword and killed O-Ren et al. Why, then, does she not have the sowrd with her when the visits Fox? For that matter, why doesn’t Fox have a sword of her own, since all the other members of the Squad seem to.
I was slightly disappointed by volume 2, but such movies go well with popcorn.
I was thinking that, but then why in the world would she take the shot? Seems to me that a trained assassin would never take a risk like that unless she knew she could pull it off. One of those “first rule of fighting” things: never try to kill someone unless you know you can.
Good point. Hadn’t thought of that.
She couldn’t get it through customs?
I hear 2 is much less bloody (I guess she doesn’t kill and maim 88 people in one scene) but explains how exactly how The Bride was left for dead at the altar.
This witty, profound, lyrical, and thoughtful post was NOT written by Zoltarb. Even though, if he was smart, he’d agree with everything I say.