The key is there to open the tin,
the tin is there to keep the ham in.
And how about “Christmas At Ground Zero”?
I think you mean ‘solstice,’ but other than that, I’m with you.
So were the Israelites co-opting pagan celebrations by celebrating the Passover in early spring? Just asking.
Right :smack:
I don’t believe so, no. Passover is it’s own thing AFAIK - but I’m really no scholar on Jewish customs or their archaeology :o.
That said, Jesus being purportedly crucified on or around Passover does tie in with Jewish symbolism (since Passover involved sacrificing a lamb for… Reasons ? Again, I know too little about Jewish mysticism & symbols :()
Other way around. 
Kirk will be around soon enough to explain to us how the Jews co-opted Passover from the Christians.
As I was taught in a Jewish History class, Passover was originally an agricultural festival that was euhemerized into a celebration of the Exodus. I seem to recall being taught that it was a harvest festival, but that doesn’t seem right for spring. Still, the growing season in B.C.E. Palestine was surely different from the temperate US, so, maybe.
As to as early Christians picking December 25 for Christmas, that flies in the face of the Gospels, which mentions shepherds guarding their flocks. Which suggests that 3rd cent. Christians were sufficiently urban to not know that sheep don’t lamb in December.
I wouldn’t say that Jews co-opted the spring equinox celebrations for Passover. I would say rather that all nearly cultures celebrate the equinox, for more or less the same reasons, and that Passover is the form that the Jewish equinox celebrations took. It’s sort of a convergent evolution of holidays. By the same token, modern Americans have a major holiday coming up that’s a harvest festival, even though it doesn’t have any direct continuity to any other harvest festival.
This is why I have to see it at this point. I know that is what I’ve read, but my brain will not process it until I see it.
He could be a parody artist at this point.
Colbert should have him on and support him fully.
…and his Aryan Reggae Band?
Clearly shortly after founding America, Jesus opened the world’s first Department Store and commenced with the first Black Friday Sale.
Somebody needs to make a Mike Seaver’s Saving Saturnalia spoof.
My understanding is his Growing Pains co-stars can’t stand him (not because he’s Christian but because he was so obnoxious). One of them would probably gladly do it.
It was a Seder. Eggs on matzoh. But not scrambled eggs because when they are stirred they capture bubbles of air, which is enough like leavening to tick off some rabbis. I assume, based on zero knowledge.
To be fair, Santa IS based on an actual Christian, so at least they’ve got that right. But since he’s now a saint, they probably don’t want anything to do with him, since Catholics aren’t Christian, according to Kirk and Co.
I thought so for a second, but then I saw the name – do a search of his posts.
O. M. G.
I just looked up “when was Christmas first celebrated” on Google, and got to the wikipedia page on Christmas. Check out this medieval illustration of the Nativity which appears with the article.
That’s right, the cow and the ass are eating around the Baby Jesus. :D:D:D
I guess that’s supposed to be Joseph on the far right? He looks pretty darn miserable…maybe because he lost his shoes, or he just got some really bad news from Maury.
Maybe he just got the bill for Mary’s swank-ass bedsheet.
That’s one very special ox, too. o_O
Christmas Banana (Harmless, but might not be safe for work)
