Kissing your husband while black? Not if the LAPD can help it.

No, it’s not undisputed. In fact it seems that he was sitting in one of the chairs at the time he was twice asked to leave by building security. Plus, per that cite, it’s not even clear that the walkways themselves are always public beyond “de facto access”. I don’t know if hanging around for 15 minutes when asked to move on is de facto access.

No. I don’t care about this guy getting tazed for not telling his name.

I would think it’s a concern if an ordinary citizen can’t go about his own business without being tazed by cops. If self-entitled jerks can’t be in-your-face obnoxious without being tazed by cops is not nearly as troubling.

Guys can you take this hijack about some Minnesota issue to another thread?

There was nothing that made this guy a “self-entitled jerk” except that he wasn’t afraid to assert his rights.

When we are talking about a situation where crimes possibly being committed are the very reason for the situation’s existence in the first place, I think “whether or not it’s a crime” is a very reasonable standard to judge interactions with other humans.

stop this fucking hijack

I’ve checked, but I can’t find a right to trespass in the Constitution.

Mimes!

Thank you, yes; that is a prolly more accurate rendition of what I meant.

No, the officer was not legally entitled to detain Miss Watts.

You can’t stop me from commenting, I know my rights!

(bolding mine)

And you know this how? How many LE interactions with this person have you witnessed?

As someone who has been particularly engaged in this discussion, I contend that it is not a hijack. I also don’t know where you get off throwing your little dictator tantrum.

Clearly, he has a duty to stand up for his rights in the face of false claims of authority from would-be fascists like the rest of us. Why are you disrespecting a courageous American hero?

I’m sorry. Are you a mod?

No. but I am not a rude asshole who insist upon hijacking a thread for her personal gratification and wont stop even after a reasonable request. :mad:

And now, we we have a hijack about the hijack. :smack:

Is it about the case in the OP? No. Thus, a hijack.

Please cite where that entitlement is granted.

More specifically, start with the Fourth Amendment as a foundation, and then cite any official sources limiting those rights.

Please read the US v Grigg text, which articulates the balance between individual liberty from being officially detained versus the public interest to prevent harm.

I think this is still a bit murky. Some of the skyways are completely public, some are private, some utilize a public easement that allow for “ingress and egress” but the “operations” is private and they allow the private owner to close the skyway outside of business hours.

If a private property owner can close a skyway every night, it ain’t public, and they have the right to tell you to “move along”.

If a detailed legal analysis of the ownership/management/easement rights of the piece of property he was on shows us that it IS private, the police were 100% legally justified in asking for ID, detaining him for identification purposes, and arresting him for trespass.

OK,that’s it. Give me your name. NOW! Give me your name!! And ID. Show ID.

He was not being lawfully detained.