Kissing your husband while black? Not if the LAPD can help it.

We’ve long ago established that neither Miss Watts nor Mr. Lollie were being asked to obey the law. In fact, we’ve long ago established that the only people involved in either of these siuations NOT following the law and NOT knowing what the law is were the people charged with enforcing the laws, all of whom failed spectacularly in their duties.

And you are here defending their failures, endlessly.

If Tasering is a summary execution then a tantrum is first degree murder.

Regards,
Shodan

We’ve established no such thing - quite the contrary, in fact.

You think it’s paranoid or irrational for black people to believe that they are frequently subject as a group to mistreatment by the police?

We did??? When did we do that?
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When it’s material to their investigation.

The guy’s name, weight, and age were immaterial to whether he was trespassing. I don’t know what is so hard to get about this.

Not just “the police”, but the fucking LAPD,which has “a reputation” well deserved.

Because of the significant probability that a tantrum and screaming will result in serious injury or death?

Rights are the privilege of civilized human beings. If you want to act uncivilized, then you’re not entitled to any rights you can’t physically force the rest of the world to acknowledge.

Sure it is.

I hope “soup press” was an autocorrect error, because otherwise this line is just making me giggle.

It is good to kill an admiral from time to time, in order to encourage the others.

Yes, because the only examples of “mistreatment” we’ve seen so far had nothing to do with the suspect’s race and everything to do with the suspect’s paranoia.

Oh, I get it! This is some sort of performance art where you pretend that you have the authority to dictate what we talk about here, and we respond by asserting our rights over your false claim to power, right?

What do you mean “so far”? There has been plenty of discussion of mistreatment based on race from American history.

“From American history” as in “not currently”, as in “occurred once but occurs no longer”.

  1. That is not the law of any civilized country. Rights are inherent and can it be deprived without due process. There is no tat for entitlement to rights, and if there were, it would be before a disinterested tribunal with due process, not in a street encounter with a cop.

  2. You think civilized people never throw tantrums or scream? Are you deluded?

Sure it is.

I hope “soup press” was an autocorrect error, because otherwise this line is just making me giggle.

It is good to kill an admiral from time to time, in order to encourage the others.
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Oh. I see now. You’re a troll.

Look up “stop and frisk” and see how badly implemented and fraught with racial biases that has been and is ongoing today.

And not for nothing, perception is reality. As a community servant (as in “to serve and protect”), if historical mistreatment has lead to current mistrust it actually is the responsibility of police to address this head-on in how they do their jobs. It’s not just touchy-feely “PC” crap- building trust within the community is critical to doing good policing.

The Lollie incident that happened in St Paul. The thread has progressed.

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Yes. If you are Tasered, you might fall down and hit your head and die. If you pitch a tantrum, you might also fall down and hit your head and die. Therefore pitching a tantrum is a suicide attempt, or murder if the police try to detain you.

Here. I think I cited it already - if so, then Shodan’s Rule applies.

Regards,
Shodan

Mr. Lollie was very calm during his encounter with the police, but that hasn’t stopped Shodan from claiming that he was “screaming at” the police; I’m sure other forums (including Youtube) show more of the same kind of thing. Some people are jerks and will not let facts get in the way of their opinions.

So you don’t believe that any police officer in America, in the present day, treats black people differently based on race?

Besides being an asshole, Watts is also a liar. Watts and her boyfriend introduced the prostitution angle and the racism charge. Watts, not the police.

The lame stream media jumped at the chance to publish something that the hadn’t investigated but knew would increase their ratings. Many people chose to believe Watts and the one-sided media version.

Watts needs to get better legal advice from her publicist. :smiley:

By that logic a cop could use the fact that someone didn’t consent to a search of their house without a warrant as reasoanble suspicion.