Know how we said breakfast is the most important meal? Well not really we just made that up

Okay, good, I’m not the only person that has experienced this. I sleep 5-6 hours a night on weekdays, so I need to sleep in on weekends – it’s strange how much this bothers some people. If I don’t leap downstairs and join in the hearty family breakfast with a cheery smile every morning, then I’m not ‘open’ enough.

Also, I have to sleep with a sleep mask and ear plugs, since I’m a super light sleeper, which also leaves me open to judgment, because it means I’m too ‘sensitive’. “See, your cousin can fall asleep anywhere! That’s a sign of health and vitality and openness!”

Bah.

Guess it depends on what the definition of “breakfast” is. I get up very early and cannot stomach the notion of solid food…l drink two cups of coffee, usually take dogs for a run, putter around the house…then three hours or so later when l am ready to go to work, l am hungry.

Like several others upthread, if l eat breakfast l am actually more hungry, ravenous by late morning. If l eat nothing, l’m not aware of being hungry until noon or one pm.

So my routine for 40+ years has been: get up, drink coffee, do stuff for a couple of hours. Then eat a little something (usually that’s about 0900). Eat lunch about noon. I do tend to eat dinner late.

I have long thought the emphasis on breakfast would be proved wrong (as a directive) eventually. Like the 8 glasses of water thing, or meat, or vitamin E, or carbohydrates, etc.

I think the point was that for all we know that recommendation will change again.When my kids were born (before 1992) the “experts” recommended stomach sleeping and I’m pretty sure it was thought ( at the time) to prevent SIDS.

Part of the reason for that advice is to keep you from getting a sleep debt to begin with - it’s not intended to mean you get two or three hours less sleep than you need every single night. It’s to prevent “Sunday night insomnia” where you stay up late Friday , sleep in Saturday, stay up late again Saturday, get up late again on Sunday and then have trouble falling asleep on Sunday night. But you have to get up for work on Monday at 6am even though you didn’t fall asleep till 3 - and now you have a sleep debt.

( I am by nature a night owl- but as long as work and school were going to require me to get up early, I figured it was worthwhile to learn to go to sleep early. Tonight is going to be terrible, because I’ve been on vacation and off my regular schedule)

<points up a the phrase insomnia and sleep disorder> Because other than when sedated I seem to not be able to sleep more than 3 or so hours. It used to be that I could manage to fall back to sleep after half an hour or so, then it got to be an hour or so, then a couple hours. Sometimes I can’t go back to sleep at all until my am medications kick in [some of the stuff I am on has a secondary use as a sedative. And NO I am not talking about nyquil or other OTC crap.]
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Take these two studies with the same grain of salt that you should have been taking anyone who was making “most important meal” claims. Which is the take that the cited link takes. These are two fairly small studies, one with under 300 and the other with a total of 33 participants. Neither one apparently specified what sort of food counted as breakfast.

There are actually two issues here:

  1. The fact that the science has been suggestive but not conclusive that a healthy breakfast (not sugar bomb cereal or a stack of pancakes with syrup) helps with weight control and overall health measures compared to no breakfast. That is still the case with these latest being small but highly hyped additional items in the bigger mix. Suggestive, maybe just slightly suggestive … as in studies that look at not under 300 or 33 but at almost 27,000 … which show lower rates of coronary heart disease among those who eat breakfast than among those who skip. (Still, could just be a proxy of the unaccounted for confounder.)

  2. The manner in which media reports nutrition science in a totally distorted manner, breakfast and its importance being one of many such things, elevating “popular beliefs” into alleged “expert opinion”. It must be noted that actual expert recommendations, such as the 2010 Dietary Guidelines for Americans, make and have made no specific recommendations about breakfast for adults due to the lack of currently conclusive evidence. You can find some “they” who have been saying whatever, but “they” in terms of the expert panel recommendations have NOT been claiming that breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

For the little it is worth my WAG is that it matters mightily what the breakfast consists of. A high refined carb, or high fat, or high in processed meats (eg bacon or sausages) breakfast is likely not a good thing, a likely that in many ways. A high fiber, high protein meal within an hour or so of rising is likely associated with many good outcomes. And of course one size does not fit all.

That is fine but people’s sleep needs differ by a whole lot and I think people need to accept those differences just like they need to accept different skin colors or sexual preferences. I spent most of my childhood asleep at 8 am sitting in class in my homeroom class. I literally could not stay awake at all during normal school hours and there was nothing anyone could do about it. I always sat in the back of the class so that I could catch up on sleep but it wasn’t fun. A few teachers got so mad that they hit me on the head with a textbook but I also made the highest grades on tests so what were going to do? I will still pass out to this day if people force me to go into a more traditional schedule. However, if you need someone to work noon to midnight and do a great job, you have found your man and that is the schedule I keep these days.

I have multiple diagnosed sleep disorders and have had radical surgery for it. I have a CPAP to make the sleep rhythms work but they don’t fix everything. The one thing I ask of people is to be accepting of differences for sleep pattern differences. The world operates 24 hours a day and it takes all different types. There is nothing admirable about working 6 am to 4 pm as opposed to working a night shift unless you have an Amish fetish. There is nothing more moral or important about one particular hour of the day versus another. Think about that when you have a medical emergency and have to go to the emergency room and need a doctor or nurse to save a family member’s life at 3 am.

Eating breakfast makes me feel nauseous and fucks my eating habits for the rest of the day. I do not do breakfasts.

I think the emphasis in breakfast is to prevent schoolchildren from being hungry or undernourished while being subject to physical and intellectual demands.

Even with schoolchildren, it’s simply a matter of scheduling.

There’s nothing magical about breakfast time, but if you want to keep a kid adequately nourished in the morning, and they won’t get to eat again until school lunch hour, then it makes sense to make sure they are fed before sending them off to school.

If I somehow gave the impression I disagree with this, I apologize because I don’t disagree at all. But I’ve never heard the advice to keep a consistent schedule specify which hours you sleep- in fact, whenever I’ve seen it, it makes a point of saying that shift workers who sleep say from 9am-4pm (or whatever) should keep that schedule on days off rather than trying to stay awake during the day on those days.

Ugh, good. Now I can hand this study to my mom, who happily eats eggs, bacon, and toast every morning.

I am emphatically ***not ***a morning person, and my ideal breakfast is a piece of toast, milky coffee, and asthma/migraine preventative medications.

I’ve always been a breakfast person. I’ve only skipped breakfast twice since 1999. Both times, I ended up experiencing the very unpleasant symptoms of hypoglycemia. So I try to eat something within the first hour of the day.

But I don’t usually eat a whole lot. I try to avoid anything carb-heavy because I’ve found I get hungrier for lunch earlier when I do. While I do enjoy a big breakfast every once and awhile, I’d rather eat like a Queen at dinner time. My appetite is a lot bigger later in the day than it is first thing.

Ladies, please dont get mad but I’ve always thought breakfast was more of a guy thing because we guys love breakfast food more than women. Biscuits and gravy, scrambled eggs and hashbrowns - guys love them.

Yes, some women also like big breakfasts. But IMO most women are content with just a muffin, smoothie, or a cup of coffee and toast.

Sheeee-it. I love that food. Around noon, please. :wink:

We need look no further than Hollywood to prove this. Nobody on TV or in movies got up in time to actually eat breakfast, they always arrived at the fully laden breakfast table seconds before the school bus arrived.

Yep. When I learned to turn myself tummy down, my mother completely freaked out and made us both spend several lousy days until my next doctor appointment. The doctor asked for a demonstration of “as soon as I put her down she flips” and decreed that it was OK (I assume that by the point a kid has enough strength and coordination to flip over and “do the lighthouse”, raising their head to look over the edge of the pram, there isn’t much risk of SIDS any more).

Mom was furious when, six years later, the advice was to place kids tummy down. It was tummy down again for my youngest brother, eight years younger than me. Both brothers got to sleep in whichever position they seemed most comfortable in: tummy up at first, one of them eventually flipped over but the other one never did.

I’m in the “must have breakfast before leaving house” camp (except when leaving the house at such ungodly hours that my stomach stays in bed), but have long thought that what’s important is figuring out your own natural rhythms and following them as much as possible. People who insist that others Must Have Breakfast piss me off as badly as the But You Have To Have A Drink ones and the But 11pm Is A Perfectly Fine Hour To Sit Down For Dinner ones.

There was an experiment done in the early 70s that took a bunch of school children who all normally chose to eat breakfast, deprived them of it for several weeks, and documented the plummet in their school performance. On the basis of that, a lot of schools implemented voluntary lunch programs (voluntary in that students don’t have to participate). It helped a lot of kids, because the sort of kids who were eligible for free breakfasts were kids who didn’t always get a good dinner the night before, and kids who took advantage of the breakfast but paid, were kids who wanted to eat breakfast, but came from families with two working parents, who were often rushed in the morning. Going to school a little earlier and eating there benefited those kids.

However, about 20 years after the initial experiment, someone finally did a follow-up, where they divided kids into two groups based on whether they freely elected to eat breakfast or not, and tried to match them on other factors, like the general availability of good food in the home, whether the family ate dinner together, how often they had homemade meals vs. take out, etc., and found no difference in school performance.

So, clearly, if a kid wants breakfast, it is highly beneficial to the child to give them breakfast, but if he doesn’t, a morning battle over whether or not he will eat it isn’t necessary.

My son is a non-breakfast eater, although sometimes he will eat a small bowl of cereal or a piece of fruit. My only rule is that he has to drink a glass of milk, at a minimum, in the morning, and that’s because he is really big for his age, and I want to make sure he gets enough protein. He doesn’t mind that, because he likes to have something to drink, and will have some water or juice as well, usually. If we have watermelon, he likes that in the morning. He sweats a lot at night.

I eat breakfast, but I skip lunch a lot. I’m on my own schedule. When I’m working in an office, I eat three meals, or I tend to get hungry at inconvenient times.

When it really gets down to it the push to eat breakfast was done by the companies that made breakfast foods.

My breakfast usually consists of an egg, an english muffin, and a bowl of oatmeal. A couple of weeks ago I couldn’t eat the oatmeal (due to getting up too late). My blood sugar crashed hard after a couple of days of this. I need to eat all of it, even though I’ll be hungry again in four hours, but a handful of fruit & nuts will take care of that.

I don’t do a real lunch most days. Usually a snack will get me through till dinner. But I have to eat something when I first get up or Bad Things will happen.

You wouldn’t happen to know where/when this was done, would you? Because my daughter, like me, doesn’t voluntarily eat breakfast, and I have experienced quite a bit of grief from her father for not forcing her to eat something before she goes to school. I would very much love for this to be true.