Kwami Kilpatrick and Detroit

I expected Michiganders to post bitching about him. Any discussion that ever comes up is heated, Lots of people I know are disgusted by him. But, any time the subject is broached somebody has a story or an experience. I expected some of that. I am surprised.

The “hip hop mayor” turns out to be just another thug? Who’da thunk it? :rolleyes:

Where do you get that Kilpatrick is any sort of “hip hop mayor”? Is it, to you, obvious because of his skin color?

I’m not defending Kilpatrick’s behavior related to the scandals that are currently in the news but, even though I know you’re going to do your usual turd-dropping and not respond, I’d like to know what about his history makes him the "hip-hop mayor."

Is it the fact that he became the youngest, duly-elected mayor in Detroit’s history (or the second youngest ever of any major U.S. city)? Or is that he’s a current representative to the DNC and Vice-President of the National Conference of Democratic Mayors, or that he’s a former leader of the Democratic Caucus of the Michigan house of Representatives, the first ever A-A to hold the position?

In addition his mother, Carolyn Kilpatrick is both a current and former Michigan State Representative, a seat he won in 1996, after she vacated it to run for Congress.

I don’t know what’s more troubling – that your own warped mental meanderings caused you to falsely characterize him as hip-hop because of his skin color and therefore a thug, or the fact that you have so many problems with young people participating in the democratic process at all.

Gee, I really don’t know?

While the designation you speak of is in the headline’s and text of your links, none of them state he chose that specific designation to define his political career. Even if it did, how do you get from that to “thug”? Skin color? Although he did run as a child of the hip-hop generation, being the self-named “hip-hop mayor” is not the same thing. From your links:“Comedian Chris Rock called him America’s first hip-hop mayor.” Christian Science Monitor. Someone else attached this phrase to his campaign.

Mockingly dubbed the ‘hip-hop mayor’, . . . (my emphasis) CityMayor.com. He would mock himself?

He was Kwame M. Kilpatrick, the elected leader of this city and, according to his introduction at this rally, “America’s hip-hop mayor.” That description makes the 32-year-old Kilpatrick roll his eyes — it is too limiting to his taste, too gimmicky for a man trying to cure problems in a famously troubled metropolis — but he acknowledges there is some truth and power to the singular title (emphasis mine). L. A. Times Yes, he acknowledges the title, but isn’t comfortable with it. Self-chosen?

Apparently Mr. Kilpatrick’s gotten himself in quite a quandry. Again something that has nothing to do particularly with his policy but all the same. Since he ran on a platform of being a child of the hip-hop generation, appearing on Detorit hip-hop stations and what not. Will they try to blame this latest debacle on hip-hop? (emphasis mine). Jackson Free Press. Are you sure about what you posted.

I thought the last quote from Jackson Free Press was interesting, considering your post.

Plenty of politicians have crossed the ethical and legal line, but I’ve yet to see you characterize them as thugs.

Hip-hop is known for having thugs. You can even call it the point of hip-hop anymore, all the biggest names are self-professed criminals. The mayor has the name of “hip-hop mayor” and he turns out to be a thug. Yep, it’s only because of his skin color.

Yes, and po’ white trash have the designation of being illiterate, so perhaps that’s why you couldn’t read my last post.

Listen, I don’t give a flying fuck who is racist when and how. All I’m saying is that you are giving Johnny Alphabet a lot of shit even when he might not deserve it. Regardless of how the Mayor got the nick of “Hip-hop”, if Mr. Alphabet knew this much it wasn’t that far of a stretch to call him a thug.

You asked why he called him a hip-hop mayor. Then he proved that the term was in multiple publications, meaning he was using an already accepted nickname. Note: NOT being a racist. Then you moved the goal posts and said that the nickname had dubious origins and still called him a racist. But that’s not the point, the point all along was that he has the nickname, and from the attributes of that nickname, he was being a thug.

Stop assuming so much, you make yourself look like an idiot. Such as my own race, where did I ever identify myself as white?

It’s a great time to be alive, I tells ya! It’s a free soap opera, dragging up incidents that have been swept aside and opening up overdue investigations.

Me, I’m just bummed that the Lincoln Navigator, the one the city paid for so his wife could have a nice ride, hasn’t seen an increase in sales. Bring that back up in the listing of Kwame’s crimes. We could use the bump. :slight_smile:

I’m not assuming anything, but I may not have laid out my responses clearly. In addition to his posting history which include odd takes on African American culture, this was T…‘s initial post, which made the giant leap from “hip-hop mayor” to “thug,” kind of like you did and kind of like I did by characterizing you as po’ white trash and therefore illiterate:

Yes, hip-hop has a reputation associated with thuggishness, but not all involved and interested in hip-hop are thugs. You know that, right.

Additionally, T…'s own links don’t support what he claims they support and I pointed that out, including how uncomfortable he was with the label, despite characterizing himself as a child of the hip-hop generation - to bring in younger voters. It’s a political strategy.

Further, even if it could be proven that a majority of people that are associated with the word hip-hop, including Kilpatrick, are thugs, nothing about his history marks him as a thug, a leap you and T… made.

Finally, in my first response to T…, I outlined his political career; surely someone with those high-reaching goals and political aspirations from so early an age (he knew he wanted to be mayor at 9) would be the furthest thing from an actual thug that one could imagine.

It may appear that I moved the goalposts because I was not clear in my response, but I knew all along that the application of the phrase had less than clear-cut origins and, even then, knew no automatic leap could be made from that to the characterization of “thug.” Characterize his act as “ethical misbehavior,” “political malfeasance,” “moral shenanigans,” and/or “romantic peccadillos,” as any other politician would be described.

Why Kilpatrick had to be cast as a thug and not by one of the above negative is what I’m questioning; that you don’t know that your not having to tell me what race you are tells me a lot speaks volumes about. It also makes you look like an idiot if you don’t see that or T…'s history of that casting those types of automatic dispersions here.

Who are you and why do you think I am trying to convince you of anything. ?
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