Being married to a rabid Republican was somewhat satisfying in the sense of having some discussion. Since the ex is a single-issue kind of guy (gun control being his pet cause), discussing guns and gun control got old.
Relying on TV Nation for statistics is like relying on George Stephanopoulos or James Carville for fair and balanced analysis. Michael Moore rocks, but he’s about as on the level as an Vegas Night roulette wheel…
Don’t forget the “Republicans have more nightmares” thread currently running in GD. Maybe a few more will get you to realize that being a Republican is Not A Good Thing?
(I note that most of the Republicans who responded to this thread tend to be more indignant instead of mildly amused. Maybe that’s why they’re not so emotionally satisfying – they can’t laugh at themselves…)
Up until that line I was with you all the way. So close to being a great rebuttle… wish you had stuck to the high road the whole way, but you can only expect so much
I am not conservative, but I imagine that if I was this thread would really be getting my goat. Here’s a question for those democrats/others who are making this wild assumption that they are somehow more able to form emotional bonds with women: What is it about your political viewpoint that gives you this power over the heartstrings of women everywhere? I’m sure all the lonely, depressed, love-starved republicans would pay dearly from their tax-break-filled, sweatshop-labor-augmented coffers would love to know.
Also, I’m a democrat… so why don’t I have a girlfriend??? Answer me that!
Look, anyone who knows me knows I can take a joke with the best of 'em. But I got no sense from the OP that this was lighthearted.
Right now the only stereotype that the Boards are not working to correct is the perception of Republicans, especially Republican men, as greedy, selfish, morally self-righteous, uptight, etc., etc. But the last straw for me is trying to state that we’re emotionally stunted and incapable of building satisfying relationships with the women we love.
(I’d ask Mrs. Tygr to post here and refute the contention, but in the back of my mind is a sneaking suspicion that someone would just point and say "Look, see? He’s forcing his wife to submit and support him like a Good Republican is supposed to!)
If you want to debate issues that’s fine.
If you try to put forth “evidence” that I’m not intelligent based solely on my party affiliation, I’ll grit my teeth and move on, dismissing you as someone who’s more interested in name-calling than in an open discussion of ideas.
But if you try to contend that my political beliefs and principles indicate that I’m incapable of being a good lover… That is not the sort of thing that I’ll be “amused” by. It takes a lot to get me to blow a gasket, but that will put you on VERRRY thin ice.
Sorry you see it as “taking the low road”. It actually sums up my entire point. This whole thread is about tying political beliefs to emotional sensitivity. Which is absolutely ludicrous because the two have nothing to do with each other.
I dunno. [sub](becoming increasingly shrill)[/sub] Maybe if you’d cut your hair, quit smoking the Pot, put on a tie and go out and get a job instead of relying on the gov’mint to pay your way through life, you might wind up making something of yourself and accidentally impressing some nice God-fearing girl that you could bring home to your mother and me then marry and start giving us some grandbabies like yer s’posed to!
[sup]- See? Who says we can’t laugh at ourselves?[/sup]
Look at some of the previous posts. Some women think there is a correlation. Just like how some think that your party affiliation affects your dreams. This is because your personality affects your political views, so that’s why Republicans may have more nightmares, etc. In the partisan nightmares thread ElvisL1ves points out that the nightmares of Democrats are tempered by some of the things that make them liberal–the hope for a better future, compassion, etc.
Responding to two even earlier posts:
Moore used the firm Widgery & Assoc, a legitimate polling firm based in Flint, MI. I don’t think they have a website, but if you whipped out the Flint phonebook and called them they’d explain their methods.
33% of Americans are registered Republicans, 35% are Democrats, the rest are indies. I presume that, because of the gender gap, about 40% of men are registered Republicans.
I dunno, being Canadian, but I’ll just say that it’s my firm belief that Stockwell Day’s main problem is that he secretly wants to get it up the butt from Svend Robinson.
So go to GD and start a thread on it. Either that, or write to your high-profile Republican political and social leaders and tell them to stop being greedy, selfish, morally self-righteous, uptight caricatures.
Well, with Carville and Matalin it was because they both respected each other, they both thought the other was intelligent and nice, and they had similar personalities. That’s probably the same way people on the same side of the political spectrum enter into serious relationships. I’m not dating anyone from the opposite side of the political spectrum (or the same side, come to think of it, so if anyone is free…), but I have friends who I politically disagree with on most issues, and I don’t think that hurts our relationship.
To put in my 2 cents, I must agree that I would feel slightly put upon if I were a Republican reading this thread. However, in the interest of learning something. . .
The last time I dated a REAL Republican was in high school. This is not because I have been avoiding them, but 'cause I’ve been in a monogamous relationship pretty much since my 1st year of college. Based on that experience, and on my Republican friends, I’d have to say that a GOP guy could float my boat provided that he was an intelligent, well-reasoned person, capable of discussing his opinions in a rational and friendly manner, and willing to consider the viewpoint of another, at least academically.
Of course, I hold that standard for all men, regardless of political party. It’s just that I might never find out if a guy who agrees with me is a lousy debater.
Perhaps so, but it’s still stereotyping if they make the assumption that we are all emotionally stunted. I, for one, am going to continue to go out of my way to demonstrate that one can advocate conservative social and political policies and still be fun-loving, expressive, out-going in ALL aspects of life.
I’m sorry, I don’t know any that are like that. Know plenty of Democrat ones, though…
Well, I don’t know what most of my mates were politically.
The last one was republican, so i guess it doesn’t really matter, though if some guy said he voted for Bush over my guy (Nader) I would wonder about his …whats the word I’m looking for…sanity? Intelligence?
something like that
For the record, I’d like to say that I do have problems with singling Republicans out as some kind of sexually repressed group. I think that at the heart of the question, perhaps the underlying concern is about how well folks from different political backgrounds will communicate and how this will ultimately bear on the success of a long-standing relationship.
I am first and foremost a RATIONAL HUMAN BEING who votes her conscience and who is open to different perspectives. I can be liberal or conservative as I see fit. However, I’m suspicious of Republicans in general and their conservative agenda because I think that their putting “family values” and Christianity in the political arena is a logical fallacy, and it’s hypocritical. The imposition of Christian values on a socio-ethnically diverse American population is offensive because it violates Americans’ constitutional right to privacy and the notion of tolerance of religions that America was founded on. I’m suspicious of Democrats in general because while they TALK a good game about reform, they don’t seem to make too much progress in that area. Of course I appreciate both political views because it sure would be boring if everyone just saw things one way. But I digress.
I once dated a Republican. We had great sex, but what ruined things was when we tried to talk about substantive topics. He was VERY conservative and a Christian, while I was VERY liberal and agnostic. I think he thought that because I’m nice and polite, I would just fall into line with what he was thinking. Whatever. When I voiced my perspectives on topics like abortion and religion, it rocked his world because either he couldn’t conceive of me espousing those views, OR he just hadn’t run into many, if any, folks who espoused those views. Well, didn’t take us long to break up. I didn’t wish him ill then, and I don’t wish him ill now. He’s basically a nice man with very narrow views. [shrug] We just didn’t suit on the mental level, and for me that’s even MORE important than sex. [giggle] Nothing gets me hotter faster than an intelligent man who can think and argue logically and express himself well AND who can respect and accept me. I think that, yes, chemistry is a wonderful thing and so is sex, but no matter what political affiliation you have, if you can’t TALK to someone and feel as if they RESPECT your views–however they differ–and more importantly RESPECT you as a person, then there’s nothing to build a relationship on.
Given his past voting record and personal inclinations, it’s pretty obvious he’s closer to the conservative side of the liberal-conservative spectrum, despite his party affiliations.
You have to get past the denial before we can address the problem.