Laura Bush Opens Up About Why Crash Wasn't Really Her Fault

If I did, I wouldn’t feel sorry for myself.

I think it’s obvious she does give a fuck, or it would be if you weren’t blinded by your own bias. Just because her husband was a historically crappy President, it doesn’t mean she’s pure evil.

Do you even post anything besides recreational outrage anymore? It’s getting tiresome.

But you would feel a hell of a lot of guilt, which was Labrador’s point. No have decent human being who accidentally kills someone experiences no consequences.

Yeah but we’re talking about consequences imposed by the system in which we live. She wasn’t punished for unintentionally killing a person.

You were talking about whether or not you feel sorry for her . . . personally, I feel sorry for her that she has to live with the guilt of killing someone, all because of a moment of distraction or carelessness when she was a teenager.

Of course, you’re entitled to not feel sorry for her . . . but I don’t see why you should be “outraged” that some of us do.

I suppose I was wrong to say that I don’t feel sorry for her at all, because it is unfortunate that it happened. But any sympathy I have for her pales in comparison to the sympathy I have for the person she killed. I’d rather accidentally kill someone than be accidentally killed.

I’m not outraged simply that someone feels sorry for her. I’m outraged that someone feels sorry enough for her to paint her as the victim.

Is someone saying that she’s the real victim, or that they feel more sorry for her than for the guy who died and his family? I didn’t see that in my quick read-through of the thread. But if anyone is saying that, then yeah, I have to agree that that’s completely crazy.

No, your read-through was accurate. Nobody said that she’s the victim. But I’ve seen several posts that, to me, implied we should just excuse her because she was a crazy 17 year old and, after all, who isn’t crazy when they’re 17? It’s all just created an atmosphere where I think people really are treating her as if she’s the poor, poor victim.

And btw, I’d be outraged if someone said that they felt more sorry for her than her victim, too.

Edit: And by outrage I mean internet outrage. The kind of outrage that makes me jump into a hornet’s nest on the SDMB without losing any sleep over it later.

Yeah, I know what you mean. For what it’s worth, I was really mostly posting to give Diogenes shit for his outrage, rather than you. No doubt his is “internet outrage”(*) too, but for whatever reason he was pushing my buttons tonight.

(*) Outrage might not even be the right word in his case. Cynicism? Whatever you call assuming Ms. Bush doesn’t even care that she killed someone, that’s what I found objectionable.

No, we aren’t. You’re free to move the goalposts all you want, but that isn’t what we were talking about.

An 18 year old kid that I personally know wrecked his car and killed his best friend shortly after they started college. The only thing that I felt, and continue to feel, for everyone involved is sorrow.

Laura Bush made a stupid mistake a very long time ago. She didn’t mean to hurt anyone. The OPer is taking quotes out of context and demonizing someone who doesn’t deserve it.

Well said, PunditLisa, and I agree.

Making a mistake, even one with horrible consequences, does not make you a bad person.

The woman who would have become my sister-in-law got herself killed when she was 19 by making a mistake while driving. The other driver was fine, but if it had worked out the opposite way, it wouldn’t have made her a bad person. She was a wonderful person according to everyone who knew her.

And how interesting that she, at last, feels free to discuss that tragic event. Just in time to flog her new book!

Our Dear Laura will be on Oprah this afternoon. Discussion of this old tragedy will allow her to avoid questions on more recent events.

Yeah, I’m sure she makes every effort to bring this up herself, and that the interviewers would never think about asking her about it.

Kinda like how the Pope is probably happier to talk about his Hitler Youth days than he is about the more recent molestation coverup days.

If I were Laura Bush, I too would prefer to talking about killing someone in my youth than about what a historical tragedy my husband was as the worst fucking idiot President in history. :stuck_out_tongue:

If you had bothered to read the OP, you would have noted that the Pitting is not for the act of a very long time ago (the accident) but for the act of not so very long ago (the offering of facile excuses).

Which part of her post indicates to you that she didn’t read the OP?

This is kind of beside the point, but, from the article,

I wonder, why did the NYT reporter include this sentence? Is he pointing out that Laura Bush’s publisher couldn’t be bothered to send a copy to the NYT for review? Just curious. Maybe I’m reading snarkiness where there is none.

Sure it is. When I say that there were no consequences for her killing a man, I think it’s pretty fucking obvious that I’m talking about punishment.

I don’t think that she doesn’t care. She probably cares a lot. If I killed someone I know it would have a huge impact on me. I don’t think Dio is saying she doesn’t care, either.

We’re saying that she’s escaped consequences. Not “consequences” like feeling sad over what you’ve done, but as in she never had to pay for what she did.

It seems that you guys are saying that everyone who commits manslaughter should just be free to go their own way if they feel sufficiently bad about it afterwards. In fact, that’s exactly what I’m interpreting your meaning to be.