The spring was extremely kind in my neck of the woods this year -and I’ve got lawn and garden insects to prove what good rains and warm weather can do for the pest population.
My question is for all,or any,lawn chedmical experts.
Will mixing a spray of two popular chemicals-lets call them MAL and DIA—create a product which combines synergistically?
I’m looking for maximum wallop in the bug wars!
TNX
I’m guessing that mixing the spray is a bad idea. If you feel like you have to use both, apply them separately with a little time (and at least one decent rainfall) between the applications.
When I worked for a landscaping company, we used Dursban for all the bugs. The EPA recently banned its production (which makes me feel all warm and fuzzy about the five years I spent playing with it), but I think you can still buy it until stores run out of stock. The EPA says it might kill you, but it sure does work well.
Malathion doesn’t give you enough wallop? Organophosphates leave you cold? Carbamate shmarbamate? DDT killing too many birds and animals in your neighborhood ecosystem? Paradichlorobenzine a bit too tame for you needs? Pyrethrum too passe’?
No problem, pal. Try one of these:
CHEMICAL WARFARE (CW) AGENTS
In searching for data on these compounds in on-line databases, it is often useful to have the molecular formula, the Chemical Abstracts Service (CAS) name, or the CAS registry number.Chemical Structure Common Name(s) Chemical Abstracts Service (CAS) Name Molecular Formula CAS Registry Number
AC, hydrogen cyanide, prussic acid Hydrocyanic acid CHN 74-90-8
BA, bromoacetone Bromo-2-propanone C3H5BrO 598-31-2
BZ, 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate a-Hydroxy-a-phenylbenzeneacetic acid, 1-azabicyclo[2.2.2]octan-3-yl ester C21H23NO3 6581-06-2
CA, a-bromophenylacetonitrile, bromobenzylcyanide a-Bromobenzeneacetonitrile C8H6BrN 5798-79-8
CG, phosgene Carbonic dichloride CCl2O 75-44-5
CK Cyanogen chloride CClN 506-77-4
CL Chlorine Cl2 7782-50-5
CN, a-chloroacetophenone, phenacyl chloride, chloromethyl phenyl ketone 2-Chloro-1-phenylethanone C8H7ClO 532-27-4
CR, dibenzoxazepine Dibenz[b,f][1,4]oxazepine C13H9NO 257-07-8
CS, o-chlorobenzylidine malononitrile, 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile [(2-Chlorophenyl)methylene]propanedinitrile C10H5ClN2 2698-41-1
CX, phosgene oxime Carbonimidic dichloride, hydroxy CHCl2NO 1794-86-1
DA, diphenylchloroarsine, Clark I Diphenylarsinous chloride C12H10AsCl 712-48-1
DC, diphenylcyanoarsine, Clark II Diphenylarsinous cyanide C13H10AsN 23525-22-6
DM, adamsite 10-Chloro-5,10-dihydrophenarsazine C12H9AsClN 578-94-9
DP, diphosgene, trichloromethyl chloroformate Carbonochloridic acid, trichloromethyl ester C2Cl4O2 503-38-8
GA, tabun Dimethylphosphoramidocyanidic acid, ethyl ester C5H11N2O2P 77-81-6
GB, sarin Methylphosphonofluoridic acid, (1-methylethyl) ester C4H10FO2P 107-44-8
GD, soman, pinacolyl methylphosphonyl fluoride Methylphosphonofluoridic acid, 1,2,2-trimethylpropyl ester C7H16FO2P 96-64-0
GF, cyclohexyl sarin Methylphosphonofluoridic acid, cyclohexyl ester C7H14FO2P 329-99-7
H, mustard gas, yperite, sulfur mustard, Kampfstoff Lost 1,1’-Thiobis[2-chloroethane] C4H8Cl2S 505-60-2
HN-1, nitrogen mustard 2-Chloro-N-(2-chloroethyl)-N-ethylethanamine C6H13Cl2N 538-07-8
HN-2, nitrogen mustard, Mechlorethanamine 2-Chloro-N-(2-chloroethyl)-N-methylethanamine C5H11Cl2N 51-75-2
HN-3, nitrogen mustard, Nitrogen Lost 2-Chloro-N,N-bis(2-chloroethyl)ethanamine C6H12Cl3N 555-77-1
L, Lewisite (2-Chloroethenyl)arsonous dichloride C2H2AsCl3 541-25-3
LSD, N,N-diethyl lysergamide 9,10-Didehydro-N,N-diethyl-6- methylergoline-8b-carboxamide C20H25N3O 50-37-3
PFIB, perfluoroisobutylene 1,1,3,3,3-Pentafluoro-2-trifluoromethyl-1-propene C4F8 382-21-8
PS, chloropicrin Trichloronitromethane CCl3NO2 76-06-2
TP, triphosgene, trichloromethyl carbonate Carbonic acid, trichloromethyl ester C3Cl6O3 32315-10-9
V-gas Methylphosphonothioic acid, S-[2-(diethylamino)ethyl] O-2-methylpropyl ester C11H26NO2PS 159939-87-4
VX Methylphosphonothioic acid, S-[2-[bis(1-methylethyl)amino]ethyl] O-ethyl ester C11H26NO2PS 50782-69-9
For T C Burnett
I recall being exposed to several of the compounds on that list during my “gas-attack” training at Parris Island 60 yrs ago.
I recall wondering why the sand fleas on my fatigues survived the program.
so—no thank you----but do you,perhaps,have a serious answer to my question?
It is poor practice to select a pesticide regimen based on what might “provide the maximum wallop.”
This would be akin to, in medicine, treating someone with a fever with megamycin, cepheverything, and godcillin to “cover everything.”
And combining two pesticides for “maximum wallop” might be illegal as well. Doesn’t it say something on the package about how using the product other than according to the label directions is in violation of federal regulations?
What are you trying to do anyway, sterilize your lawn? It won’t work.
I strongly urge to identify what insect infestation or infestations you are trying to control or prevent and then to select a pesticide and aplication regimen approved for that particular problem. If you have a county extension agent, ask her for advice. Otherwise I suggest you get a good lawn book on lawn pests in your area, pick an appropriate pesticide (if any is needed), and then read carefully all the label information.
I would think that using just the DIAzinon ought to work fine for you. I don’t recall any lawn bugs that have shown resistance to it. Are you only looking at lawn bugs? (And are they really a problem, or are you just concerned that they exist?) Aside from cutworm and sod webworm, I’m not sure what you’d want to kill in your lawn. If the beetle grubs are drawing moles, that could be a problem. Most healthy lawns will survive a lot of insect attacks without any human intervention, so what are you actually defending against?
Um, why are you trying to get rid of lawn bugs? Are you trying to starve out the birds or the bats?
To those who tried to help me, my thanks!
To those who plied me with scolds,bad humor and their, obviously, superior[?] knowledge-----DA FINGAH!
Ezstrete is gone from here
'Will mixing a spray of two popular chemicals-lets call them MAL and DIA—create a product
which combines synergistically? "
Call the comp that makes one of them & ask. They know what happens with their chemicals. It’s not too bright to mix chemicals. What about the birds or cats or canines that get into tthe stuff? That eat the bugs you sprayed? Hmm.