Leave the fork in her: Clinton's still done

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@Santo Rugger

Yes, I was, and I inadvertently used percentages instead of delegates because of the way it’s listed at RCP . The table above shows delegates, and the second table shows percentages, but they’re not labeled.

That brings up another question I have, though. How does Clinton leading in North Carolina not make sense? I mean, I understand why Illinois, Arkansas, and New York went the way they did. But how do people predict the other states without any poll data?

In some cases, to put it bluntly, they’re going by racial demographics. Obama is winning 90+% of the black vote in virtually every state.

[Gangster_Octopus]

It’s almost to the point where Hillary could win every single Pennsylvania delegate and not catch Obama.

[Santo_Rugger]

@Diogenes the Cynic

In some cases, to put it bluntly, they’re going by racial demographics. Obama is winning 90+% of the black vote in virtually every state.

I figured that, but there’s got to be more than that. I’ve never been to Idaho or Wisconsin, but I don’t imagine them as the types of states that have a significant black population.

[Maeglin]

@Santo Rugger

I figured that, but there’s got to be more than that. I’ve never been to Idaho or Wisconsin, but I don’t imagine them as the types of states that have a significant black population.

Wisconsin is 6% black, Idaho is 0.7%.

[Phlosphr]

@Maeglin

Wisconsin is 6% black, Idaho is 0.7%.

Exactly, and argument that Obama will only get the minority votes is full of straw. If he does well in Miss and they have a heavy black population so what. He kicked ass in predominently white states as well. What could that mean Geraldine?

[Santo_Rugger]

@Maeglin

Wisconsin is 6% black, Idaho is 0.7%.

He won Wisconsin by 3 times, and Idaho by 885 times those percentages, respectively. There’s obviously more going on than just people that happen to have dark skin voting for Obama. My question is, what is it?

This question is probably parallel to, “What makes some states red and some blue?”, although I’m admittedly clueless on that, too.

[An_Arky]

My zipcode (which maps fairly well to my voting precinct) in Arlingon, VA is only about 2.5% black, but my precinct went almost 64% for Obama.

Something I heard about previously, but haven’t heard about lately, is how “uneducated” white voters favor Clinton. In Ohio, apparently, this was a difference-maker. I’m not sure why that is; I’d have thought that sort of demographic would be more prevalent in the South. Perhaps an Ohioan could illuminate me.

[RTFirefly]

@Santo Rugger

How does Clinton leading in North Carolina not make sense? I mean, I understand why Illinois, Arkansas, and New York went the way they did. But how do people predict the other states without any poll data?

In the case of NC at least, the expectation of an Obama win is based on poll data.

[you_with_the_face]

@An Arky

Something I heard about previously, but haven’t heard about lately, is how “uneducated” white voters favor Clinton. In Ohio, apparently, this was a difference-maker. I’m not sure why that is; I’d have thought that sort of demographic would be more prevalent in the South. Perhaps an Ohioan could illuminate me.

Ohio (and PA) are factory states. Factories produce a lot of low-skilled jobs that don’t require bachelor degrees. There you go.

[ZebraShaSha]

@you with the face

Ohio (and PA) are factory states. Factories produce a lot of low-skilled jobs that don’t require bachelor degrees. There you go.

Kinda sorta. What lies between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh is one giant ass field. Same results, different turnpike.

[jayjay]

@ZebraShaSha

Kinda sorta. What lies between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh is one giant ass field. Same results, different turnpike.

Hey, hey, hey! There are some amazing flowers growing among those asses, dammit!

Hmpf!

[Diogenes_the_Cynic]

@ZebraShaSha

Kinda sorta. What lies between Philadelphia and Pittsburgh is one giant ass field. Same results, different turnpike.

James Carville’s oft quoted line is that PA is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between.

[jayjay]

@Diogenes the Cynic

James Carville’s oft quoted line is that PA is Philadelphia and Pittsburgh with Alabama in between.

I thought that’s what she just said…

[stolichnaya]

I am picturing rolling hills with row upon row of bright pink asses stretching to the horizon.

[jayjay]

@stolichnaya

I am picturing rolling hills with row upon row of bright pink asses stretching to the horizon.

The legendary ass fields of Pennsylvania! It’s where we picked Rendell…

[RTFirefly]

@stolichnaya

I am picturing rolling hills with row upon row of bright pink asses stretching to the horizon.

Maybe they should change their slogan from “You’ve got a friend in Pennsylvania” to “Come pick yourself a piece of ass in Pennsylvania.”

[Maeglin]

@jayjay

The legendary ass fields of Pennsylvania! It’s where we picked Rendell…

The fields of ass where you picked Rendell and, dare I say, plowed Santorum.

[burundi]

@Santo Rugger

That brings up another question I have, though. How does Clinton leading in North Carolina not make sense? I mean, I understand why Illinois, Arkansas, and New York went the way they did. But how do people predict the other states without any poll data?

I’ve spent my whole life in North Carolina. Democrats in the state tend to be African-American or well-educated whites, both groups that skew towards Obama. Your working-class white voters, who in states like Michigan might be Clinton supporters, tend to be staunch Republicans. There’s not a labor vote to speak of here.

Also, anecdotally, I seldom hear a kind word about Clinton around here from Democrats, Republicans, or independents. There’s a huge swath of folks from across the political spectrum who, rightly or wrongly, reeeally don’t like her.

[jayjay]

Things just keep looking grimmer for Clinton…

US Flag Officers Endorse Obama

"Those of us who have served, worn the cloth of our nation, and gone into harm’s way know that to be successful we must have the strongest sense of trust in our Commander in Chief. We must be confident that he or she has listened to the best possible advice, that he or she has garnered the best possible information from all possible sources, that he or she has analyzed and weighed all the possible consequences and outcomes, and that he or she has made the decision to exert military force as a last possible resort,” said Admiral (Ret.) Robert “William” Williamson (USN). “Of this I am certain: Senator Obama will do all of those things and much more to ensure the safety and freedom of our citizens, our allies, and coalition partners. He has all the great qualities and attributes required to carry out the most difficult duties of the Presidency.

So much for the “Commander-in-Chief threshold.”

[ZebraShaSha]

@burundi

I’ve spent my whole life in North Carolina. Democrats in the state tend to be African-American or well-educated whites, both groups that skew towards Obama. Your working-class white voters, who in states like Michigan might be Clinton supporters, tend to be staunch Republicans. There’s not a labor vote to speak of here.

Also, anecdotally, I seldom hear a kind word about Clinton around here from Democrats, Republicans, or independents. There’s a huge swath of folks from across the political spectrum who, rightly or wrongly, reeeally don’t like her.

Yep. Especially since the population centers - Greensboro, the Triad - are filled with young university types. Charlotte has UNC-Ch, which isn’t a lot, but it makes up the difference with yuppies and upper middle class whites.