I have to go away for a few days so I’ll respond to your specific citations and claims then, but a brief analogy for you to ponder until I do:
If I look at a computer chip, I cannot tell what program is being run, what information is actually stored in memory or indeed how to distinguish it from another chip made on the same assembly line. If it’s all I have to work with, it is an exceptionally difficult field of study.
But there is nothing supernatural about a computer, agreed?
Computer memory chips, whether RAM or ROM can easily be tested for their contents. In fact, if they were carefully opened memory could be seen in the form of magnetic codes.
I won’t be answering any posts above this one, none were serious in my opinion.
Yes, it does. The human consciousness exists as a discrete entity in the form of a noncorporeal energy field, which I have named the NonCorporealConsiousnessField or NCCF.
The interaction of the brain and the NCCF is at the very heart of my research. I have found the long-discused ghost in the box, but this has only led to more questions.
lekatt, I was trying to keep an open mind about your opinion of your knowledge until you posted this – which I find very discouraging:
Well, that didn’t feel like love at all to me.
SentientMeat, thanks for the open-minded and non-defensive responses to my questions. I see that I have made some assumptions. (I’m wondering if we have talked about this before. I have some memory problems.)
I’m going to read about your experience in a moment. I have a personal interest in these experiences.
They are to me. I am uncertain about what I know because I have seen how easily an imbalance in brain chemistry can affect perception. I believe much, but recognize it as belief and am satisfied with it at that level. I am both a non-fundamentalist Christian, an open-minded skeptic and a believer in the basic non-relevance of religious persuasion.
If this thread dies out because of lekatt’s decision not to take any of us seriously, I appreciate the link you have provided.
This is clear evidence of verisimilitudinious NCCF experiences. If you say it is not, I will deny it without providing evidence. If you ask me a question, I’ll produce more waffle than the Sara Lee baked goods company. Open your minds, feel the NCCF within you.
Lambchops I cannot condone the spreading of ignorance. “NCCF experience” is a meaningless term. All human experience involves the NCCF. Human consciousness is not possible without an NCCF. Destroying the NCCF (I had no choice as the indivual in question was doing his best to kill me), destroys the brain as well. However, damaging the brain will damage the NCCF. And, while joined with the physical body the NCCF may only receive sensory input through the the physical body.
I’m not lampooning anybody. I am just sharing the fruits of my research. If I may speak poetically rather than scientifically, man is a wall seperating two infinities. Outside, the universe in all its corruscating glories extends endlessly outward. Inside, the mind in all its complexities extends endlessy inward. Years ago, I set off in search of an unseen and unfathomable hub at the center of the human mind. These posts are the letters and signposts I’ve left behind.
I do not mock or insult. I search. I see. I record. I strive for the betterment of the human race.
This is exactly why you’re not gaining any ground, lekatt. If you have answers - real, good, meaningful answers - to my post, then post them. If you don’t, it will stand there unchallenged. Which will aid your cause better?
It was a set-up from the word ‘go’ and you’ve responded with dignity. I have my reservations about your foundations and your assertions but there’s no question about your sincerity.
Bull. My post was entirely serious and dealt with his assertions in a reasonable manner.
Look, you’ve been here four months. Go read the thread " Contact with the Great Beyond–Psychics like Praagh". Do a search for lekatt’s name in the Pit, or in Great Debates. I think everything will come clear.
It’s not a question of sincerity. Does Lekatt believe that his experience was a result of his NCCF disjoining from his physical body? Does he believe that his website has all the answers and that if people would simply accept them we’d all find spiritual enlightenment?
Absolutely he does.
Lekatt is no troll. He is convinced that he has found a great truth and wants to share it with us.
Sadly, his experience was purely neurological.[sup]1[/sup] And the great truths he’s found are lies designed to keep him away from any genuine experience of the spiritual.
Most people are familiar with the conscious and subconscious minds. EtherPsychology is largely concerned with a third part, one I call the MetaConsciousMind. In the MCM resides the capability to experience what laypeople call the ‘spiritual’, and the capacity for ‘psychic abilities’. Electrical or chemical stimulus of certain parts of the brain can produce experiences which seem to be contact with the spriitual. But actual perception and interaction of the spiritual is possible only through the MCM.
Lekatt no longer has an MCM. Several years ago, I noticed an anomaly in an NCCF. Further study revealed two things: a toxin was destroying the subject’s MCM, and the toxin had been deliberately designed to do so. It was producing false sensations of spiritual experience, while simultaneously destroying the capacity to have genuine spiritual experience. As the condition progresses, the MCM is more and more damaged and the subject becomes more and more convinced that they have found enlightenment. Because the toxin keeps the subject from genuine spirituality by substituting a false one, I call it Pseudotheizine. Due to a passage suggesting just such a tactic in C S Lewis’ The Screwtape Letters, the condition is called Screwtape poisoning.
Imagine an eagle- its wings lost to gangrene, its eyes eaten by blowflies. It sits in a cage several sizes too small. Finally, the bird flaps its stumps vigorously because it is convinced it is soaring in the stratosphere looking down on a majestic view of the world. Now imagine a human in the same tragic state.
Don’t worry, chops. You’re not the first one to think DocCathode was spoofing lekatt, but be assured, he is very serious about his research and ideas. See the afformentioned “Contact with the Great Beyond–Psychics like Praagh” trainwreck of a thread (it’s over 30 pages long, IIRC) for more details.
I’d put up a website, but the nature of reality would quickly render it useless.
Reality is defined by consensus. Even an NonActualized MetaConsciousMind has the ability to affect the world. Billions of them, acting in concert create and enforce reality as you know it. Various groups, the Technarchy is the most powerful, guide the accepted definition of reality, the Consensus. A human being with an Actualized MCM can alter reality directly. I have seen and done things which violate the Consensus’ laws of physics, chemistry and such. According to the Consensus my scanner cannot possibly work. More, when viewed by a NonActualized human, it will not work. When an NA human experiences something that violates the Consensus, there is a conflict between two mutually exclusive realities. A NonActualized MetaConsciousMind is weak alone. But joined with billions of others, it is more powerful than a few Actualized MCMs. Faced with a violation of reality, the Consensus acts in a sort of immune response and destroys it.
The coelocanth comes to mind. It was long believed to be extinct. Then, several specimens were caught. I have an issue of National Geographic with a coelocanth on the cover and stills from film showing them in their environment. The Technarchy had decided that the Consensus should not include sea monsters. But a fellow Scientist (Due to his love of the sea and his vast knowledge of it, his nickname actually is Captain Nemo) refused to accept that. Nemo wanted people to look at the sea and feel the same awe and curiosity he did. He found a weak spot in the Consensus and by slow, careful steps was able to change it. The coelocanth was proof that the sea still held mysteries. It made people wonder what else might be in the deeps. That curiosity led to belief. That belief changed the Consensus again. It is now scientific fact that great squids battle sperm whales in sunless fathoms. One species is considered large enough and aggressive enough to be the krakens of legend.
But, in most cases the Technarchy is able to create a cold, and sterile Consensus. Remember the Martian rock that was briefly thought to contain fossils of Martian life? There were many people like myself struggling to change the Consensus so that Martian fossils would be accepted. The Technarchy wanted a reality in which Mars had always been barren rock. They won that fight.
The interaction of the MCM and reality is more complex and nuanced than that, but that basic explanation will serve. Should I create a website with schematics of my equipment, and all the data supporting my hypotheses, NA humans would be unable to see it. Most likely, the conflict between my reality and the Consensus would be resolved by the host computer automatcially deleting my files. I could post a website trying to explain things without data. But, what would be the point? My site would be dismissed along with TimeCube and Alex Chieu.
The SDMB has a disproportionately large percentage of members who are close to becoming Actualized. So, I write these posts in the hope that they may be catalyst and I’ll gain a new Actualized ally in the fight for our future.
The author’s hypothesis is that an endogenous drug - a hallucinogen produced naturally by the brain - DMT (which also happens to be illegal), plays a role in spiritual, near-death, and alien abduction experiences.
It also brings into question the role of drugs in the history of humanity. Maybe many of our most profound experiences are drug induced.
Drugs in relation to NDEs have been researched in the past without any correlation shown.
What is needed most by the general public and the scientific community is to learn about near death experiences. If an effort were made to study the subject then all these attemps to explain near death experiences as physical events would cease.
That is why I put up a web site to educate those that wanted to know about NDEs. There are over 200 experiences there and other NDE websites on the net hold 100’s more. If any individual had a real interest it would be easy to find out.
Near Death Experiences happen when the brain and body cease to function. If it happens to be a drug, or a heart attack, or a car crash doesn’t matter.
Now here is where the skeptics rush in and say not all NDEers actually died, and they are correct. A NDE can happen if the individual honestly believes death is imminent.
Then we have to consider what a NDE actually consists of: I have read the list made up by researchers, some have 5 items and others 10. There is no consistency at all. But this is not what makes the experience so powerful that the individual will change his life forever. Each experience is a personal experience for the individual who has it. There are parts of it that may have meaning to others, but not necessarily. That is why one must read a large number of them to get a understanding of the basic truths they teach.
If all you have read about NDEs came from the media or skeptic or scientific hardliners, then you don’t know what a near death experience consists of because they only list the things they can explain away, never the whole experience.
Some of the things they don’t mention:
After being revived, the individual will have information of what happened while he/she was dead. Not only locally around the body, but sometimes from miles away, information that was later verified by doctors, friends, or relatives.
Talking to deceased relatives and receiving information that proved accurate in the physical world. Such as a deceased relative telling the experiencer where their last will was buried or other information very helpful to the experiencer.
Seeing and talking to someone who gave the appearance of being very loving, and kind, but the Spirit Being telling them they must go back into the physical because they had not finished their lives.
Having a Spirit Being take them to a place where their past was shown on a screen and commenting on it. “Having your life pass before your eyes”. This experience can be very difficult. Danion Brinkly said this part was so difficult for him he could barely talk about it. He said he felt the pain of a man he had killed, at the same time he felt the pain of his wife, children and friends. One experiencer said she never felt so humilated in her life. Another said she was so embarrassed she could do nothing but cry after seeing the way she had treated others.
Being taken to a hall or cathedral and shown future events in the form of pictures and icons. Upon coming back seeing these things come true one after the other.
Feeling intense energy, (me), and upon returning not being able to sleep for days, having strange things happen, touching a light bulb not connected to electricity and watch it light up, touching people and having them remark that their aches and pain had just stopped. Feeling so peaceful and full of joy, undescrible. Electrical item failing around you, watches stop, batteries go dead, etc. This intense energy does lesson with the passing of time.
Being shown the Park, and the Records and Libraries, the layout of the crystal city so many experiences talk about.
And, of course, the bright light of God’s love, the acceptance and wonderful feeling of unconditional love. Then there is the knowledge of all things available for the asking. No wonder no one wants to leave.
Now I know from experience it is unlikely the skeptics will read the material, they will only decend on this post with their opinion, and theories. But I listed these things because their may be someone who does wish to learn and this is for you.