Let me state for the record that if Plastics Make It Possible™ for me to eat, shit and breathe, or if Hilary Swank can win an Oscar portraying me in the sequel to Million Dollar Baby (called Asshole With $9.56 in His Checking Account), please pull the plug and let me go.
And if John McDougall shows up to “save me,” please take that goat-felcher and fuck him in the ass with a tree. Thanks.
But, I have to point out again, that’s a totally moot point, because Michael is not the one that made the decision to remove her tube. It was made by a COURT RULING which found that her interests and wishes were not to be maintained. Now that that ruling is in effect, it makes no difference at all what Michael has to say about removing the tube. Doctors are bound by law to respect that finding and to cease artificial life support.
Hey, given that putting water and bread in her mouth would have killed her from either asphixiation or aspiration pneumonia, maybe he had a change of heart and was trying to put her out of her misery.
Or maybe he is just like most of the other screaming retards in this case, and doesn’t know the first thing about the actual situation other than what Hannity told em’.
Here’s an emabarrasing paper quote about our Congress:
“Members in both chambers were clearly not familiar with all details of the case. They mispronounced her name. They proclaimed she was not in a vegetative state, even though experts say she is and a court agreed. They claimed she did not receive certain brain scans when she had. They wrongly claimed no judge had even(r?) granted a family member removal of a feeding tube.”
Republican members of our Congress have also now walked in public and basically demonstrated their complete ignorance of such basic legal principles as “you can’t make laws retroactive” and “you can’t make laws that specifically target a single individual.” Wonderful!
Peace, Derleth --and thanks for the explanation. 
Does anyone else have the feeling that we have stepped into a John Irving novel?
The world according to Garp/GOP?
heh.
I’ve followed this thread the last couple days after my self-imposed ban from posting. So I’ll tread very carefully here to try and keep myself in the spirit of debate and not emotional content.
First, before anyone blames the GOP for this, can you show the vote of the full House and Senate on it? I’m interested in seeing how many Dems voted in favor Of course then I’ll want answers from the left-wingers on why they aren’t to blame.
I am not a left winger, but this does seem to be a more of a right handed issue. It’s got yer religious groups who tend to vote republican. Bo Gritz is more right than left. Most of the politicians that have spoken out (Jeb and George Bush, Tom Delay) have their elephant tattoos.
I’ll let you imagine where those tattoos are. 
As far as the vote goes, I don’t care. Bad enough that they’re involved in this in the first place.
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I don’t think I am a left winger, financialy i am slightly to the right of center, socialy i guess resonably far left. So maybe it isn’t me you are looking for, but it puts me pretty firmly in the center of the Democratic party. I haven’t followed what congress did exactly except to see that it was a bi-partisan comprimise. I can not begin to tell you how angry I am at any Democrat that was involved and caved to this bullshit. The Republicans are at least pandering to some portion of their constituancy, God only knows what the dems think they are doing. So as an answer to your question, I am not any madder at the Republicans than I normaly am. The Dems however have completly infuriated me.
There hasn’t been a vote yet, it may come up in a special session today or tomorrow. There has been an agreement on pending legislation between House and Senate Republican leaders; they hold all the cards, so they are the ones responsible for this travesty. For the record, some courageous Democratic Congressmen have vowed to fight this legislation:
From a memo sent only to Congressional Republicans
Is there any further doubt this is just a Republican political strategy?
GQ hijack: If they had gotten to her and she had choked to death, would that have been murder?
I’ve received most of my news about this issue from the internet and from newspapers, so i haven’t heard her name pronounced very often.
I had always presumed it was something like:
skee-AH-vo or SKYA-vo
But yesterday, on CSpan, the congressworms speaking about the issue pronounced it:
SHAI-vo or SHAY-vo
Anyown know the correct pronunciation?
The only pronunciation I’ve heard is SHY-vo. That doesn’t mean it’s right, though.
Sorry, Fear Itself, I can’t find your quoted sentence in the cite you linked. Could be me, but may I trouble you to point me to the specific paragraph? Or post a different link.
It has clearly been flogged by the right-wing media, and the GOP leadership of both chambers. Republicans have been the ringmasters in the Cirque du Horseshit in the Florida legislature and executive branch.
That said, you’re right about one thing–the Dems get to share the blame, because even if they’re not taking the lead, they’re not standing up against it.
I met a lawyer who consulted on the case a while back, and he said it was SHY-vo.
I’ve heard SHY-vo from all the lawyers involved.
I don’t know that either party is necessarily more interested in her best interests than the other, more that they disagree on what her best interests are. I do, however, think that he’s in a far better position to determine what her best interests are for the simple fact that he’s her husband. He’s her next of kin, not through the happenstance of biology, but through her own free and conscious choice. He’s the one with whom she shared a bond and a level of understanding you can never share with your parents, no matter how close and loving your relationship with them may be. Your parents and siblings love you because you’re family. Your spouse is family because he or she loves you.
Not sure what happened to that quote, it was there. Here is another article about it, with more detail:
That makes perfect sense to me, but I can see that it’s a matter of opinion. I could quite easily see my mother, whom i love, feeling as if she would know what is best for me. My wife on the other hand, knows me far far better than my mother ever has or will.
I keep large portions of my life unknown to my mother so as to not sit around constantly debating our differences. My wife has no such gap in her knowledge. True, she doesn’t know everything about me, but she certainly knows far more than anyone else aside from myself.
I can quite easily see that as being the case for the majority of the folks out there.
Nah. I doubt that any of them would actually stave themselves to death, which they’d have to do to equal Ellen James’ supporters. They’re not as hardcore deluded as the EJS people were. Not quite.