Every one of us US citizens will be affected by this because Congress has decided to stick their nose in where it doesn’t belong.
Be afraid. Be very afraid. How long before someone’s living will will be contested because “She didn’t understand it” or “That’s not his signature?”
Terri was a young woman, and all Michael had to go on was a few passing remarks she made. I don’t know what the deal is with her parents, but they frighten me.
Snort. I don’t trust them to thwart anybody. Who would? Of course, they’ve done fairly well with the Social Security Reform issue, since it seems most people aren’t for it and it’s not really moving along. I’m trying to decide which of the following is their plan for the next two years: “duck and cover” or “bend over.” It may be that they’re hoping they will gain seats in '06 because people will feel sorry for them. :smack:
You’re damn well smart enough to know almost every thread on this topic is to slam the GOP. After, what, 6 pages in this one, it seems to revolve around the topic. Yet I put to you the fact that your pet party isn’t really trying to prevent the legislation, and I’m supposed to leave to start a new thread to Pit the Dems?
Been there, done it, posted bond. (Shit! That would make for a great novelty T-shirt! I want royalties) :dubious:
I’m sticking to the point of the thread, defending “my” party by turning it back on your side for not really doing anything to block the legislation. Denial is a bitch of a burden.
I thought you were strong enough to face it. Yet again, I’m wrong.
Many thanks.
Shit shit shit shit.
My Rep effing voted “yea”.
Jesse Jackson Jr–prepare to meet my wrath. (but first, off to have the oil changed in the Volvo).
Damn damn damn. Sometimes I wish I were in a cartoon and could just throw lightening bolts at people…
Shit. You mean witnesses and Notary Publics are going to be done away with? Fuck it, I’m moving to dufferland. It’s a small island in the south Pacific, but since we’ll all be naked I’m sure there will be room. 
:dubious: Why does everyone think parents are the end-all be-all of a kids’ wishes? I know for a fact that my fiance has a much greater grasp of my wishes, desires, than my parents do. My parents have no clue, and choose to remain that way - they think they know best for me, and they have never shown that my opinion means much to them.
Several Florida judges (remember, the yokels who don’t know their ass from the elbow?) have ruled that Terri did not want to live like this. She didn’t have a living will, as she was 26 and who thinks about such things when they’re 26 and newly married?
In the absence of a living will, I would say the judge’s ruling is just as good. Her parents stamping their feet and saying, “No no no no no no!” doesn’t change anything.
This is a state issue, not a federal issue. Congress needs to butt out.
That’s what passes for ‘defending’ these days? Tu quoque? That says a lot about where politics is at, I think.
Now I’m stomping my feet. I hate a media where only electrons convey words, inflection and expression.
I completely agree with your point. I want state’s to decide civil law and have the Feds take care of roads, defense, etc. That notion was shaken by a few Supreme Court rulings. Cases that began as state suits, but became basis for national law. A…Abo…ah, hell, to I have to spell it out?
Once something this big hits the courts, it opens a whole can of worms for the other states to deal with.
Will there someday be national legislation? I don’t know. Will a state someday set precedent to base decisions on by other states? Bet the farm on it.
She’s had a feeding tube for 15 years. I don’t see the harm in allowing her to live a few more months while it’s debated and figured out what to do in these situations.
Weren’t we all told to not “rush to judgement” a few years back?
Not from this quarter. They can ram this through over a weekend, but can’t get spending under control, secure the borders, remove the AMT sword of Damocles, or address any of the other national issues they got elected to handle?
But you see, duffer my love, my fellow libertarian/conservative, IT’S ALREADY BEEN FIGURED OUT.
This case has been bandied back and forth for the past several years. 19 judges have heard the case. Both sides have had ample opportunity to have their voices heard.
What’s happening now is that Congress is basically saying that the Florida judges can’t decide this case the “right” way, so they want to review it. It’s insulting to the Florida judiciary. A few senators, after looking at a heavily edited videotape, are presuming that they know more about the situation than the Florida judges who have sat and listened to both sides make arguments.
There’s nothing more to decide, other than to satisfy Congress’s curiousity.
I understand your fear duffer.
Anyone who shows as many signs of brain atrophy as you have in this thread probably has some reason to be worried about this issue.
This is at least the THIRD time you could say “what’s the harm in waiting a few more months” in this controversy. Look at the gap in time between the time the feeding tube was reinserted for the second time (October 2003 because of "Terri’s Law) and the time it was removed again (Friday). If it’s reasonable to extrapolate from that, it could take another year and a half for this to work its way through the courts, have the tube removed, and then maybe she’ll die or somebody else will come up with something else absurd, because what’s another few months. It hasn’t been a few months, duffer. The ruling that she didn’t want to live came down more than five years ago. And at that point she’d already been living that way for ten years. This is not even a controversy, as the courts have said the same thing over and over again. Has the concept of “enough is enough” been abolished?
This is a RUSH?
This weird kind of argument keeps popping up in threads.
Is it a normal result of a two-party system, that you have to pick the side that you voted for in all matters?
So if the Republicans decide to euthanise all people above 65 you will automatically defend that stance?
I just don’t get this reasoning at all.
What has being a republican or a democrat have to do with Terry Schiavo’s case?
Does being a republican excuse you from taking part in the human race?
Reading all six pages of this sprawl was painful. Like so many polarizing issues, this is no longer about the woman on life support. It’s about pandering for votes and usurpation of states’ rights by an out-of-control congress. The House doesn’t give one rat’s ass about Terri’s life or her family. All they see is a large voting block of right-to-life windbags and will tromp all over anyone else’s rights in order to pander to them.
I have no idea what you are talking about here.
You act (at least in the post I quoted) like it is the Dems’ “fault” that this travesty is occuring.
to that I say that while the Dems are certainly not looking bold and decisive, but they are not the ones who are handing out memos stating that this is a great political point for the conservative “Christians” in '06; they are not the ones who PUSHED this thru and apparently, they are not the ones who are touting “family and life first” etc. Truly they are among the fallen, but to whom should we look for the great evil? Dunno 'bout you, but I see red.
As to my “strength”–you totally lost me there. I bet I could take down Frist, but it wouldn’t be a fair fight–I would truth, justice and the American way on my side… 
My concern (the reason I posted that particular quote from you) was that the thread would veer off into Red vs. Blue etc. I am sorry if you feel the GOP is getting a bad rap here, but the Dems who were lame enough to vote “yea” are not getting a pass from anyone here, so far as I can tell.
All deserve our scorn–but every Dem(1/2) who voted nay as well as every Rep(small minority) deserves an accolade.
General question–I wonder how many no vote Dems honestly thought that this was such a BS bill that it wasn’t worth staying in town for? I bet a goodly number. And I do think that the Reps were told to stay in town…
You may be surprised to learn that I agree with this 100%. So much so, in fact, that I’ve expressed as much to my Congressional Representative.
You honestly think this legal insanity is some normal process of appeal?
The parents are totally out of touch with reality.
Shayna
Excellent letter. I my paraphrase it, if that is all right.
These letters will be hand written (I read somewhere that emails are not counted as much as handwritten letters).