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I’m all eyes, Professor Bugleboy. Let’s see what you’ve got by way of rebuttal:

No shit, Sherlock. If nothing else, you’ve been a consistent chickenhawk with a loud mouth. As in one always willing to cheer *others * doing the killing/dying for you. Even if it means backing someone you’ve admitted LIED your nation into this mess.

Have you no shame? Obviously not.

Spot on. Perfect description of Fearless Misleader…and minions such as yourself.

Atheists are going to hell. Tell me something I didn’t know.

I am all for sexual fantasies coming true as long as they are sane, safe and consensual. Yours meets none of those pre-requisites.

Well then, while we are “thinking,” you are a preposterously insignificant imbecile and a belligerent, decrepit, urine-reeking curse on society.

Now then, hero, go kill some more ragheads from your keyboard. 'cause it’s plain to see you can touch this particular Spaniard.

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PS-“can’t touch”

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Or as good gobear once said: “Republicans are dicks, and Democrats are pussies. The dicks need the pussies to keep them in line, and the pussies need the dicks to protect them from assholes.”

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I meant “good ol’ gobear…”

But the point still stands, and even though I’m a conservative, I do think that to a certain degree we need to be kept from going too far. I’ve said for years - no, decades - that the best thing about liberals is that they keep conservatives from going too far.

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Crawford Peace House, which seems to be the main coordination point for Cindy’s current effort. Or, if you prefer, you can go straight to her group, Gold Star Families For Peace, instead.

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Bend over and I’ll show you.

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That works both ways. It cracks me up and pisses me off at the same time. One of the most important reasons democracy works is the balance. It’s the communication of ideas that helps find solutions and a balance that can work. While diifferent camps call each other names and tout the superiority of their viewpoint the fact is we get a better outcome by listening to each other and trying to work together.

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Well, shit, you can’t blame a Clinton so I guess you have to go after Kerry.

Get a new fucking trick.

-Joe

PS. Ted Kennedy doesn’t count as a new trick

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Ahhhhh… You’re Spanish! That explains it. I was wondering why you seem to throw such terms as “raghead” around with great facility, and why you’re filled with self-importance over the notion that it’s a good thing we have people like yourself to point out ironic acronyms as their part of global vigilance.

You, know for a country that I think is leading the world history count for genocides and general bad behavior, you’d think you’d be a little more discreet about venturing opinions on adventurism.

For just pure evil, it’s tough to beat the Spanish Inquisition (We know you’re wishin’ that it’d go away, but the inquisition is here and it’s here to… Hey Toquemada, what you say?)

I mean the way you guys just wiped out indigenous peoples the world over in your quest for empire is really awe-inspiring. Ask the Aztecs about the civility of the spanish. Wait, There are none.

Then, after having created this great empire, they pissed it away through sheer imbecility (Quite literally, too. Wasn’t there a king somebody or other (known as the suffer, who was literally an imbecile and upon his death King Louis of France didn’t even bother to conquer you, he just put one of his cousins on the throne.)

Not to mention the admirable behavior of the Spanish in WWII, you Franco Fascist! How dare you type a racial epithet. Helping Hitler? What do you people have against the jews?

Admit it, you really hate neocons because you associate them with Jews, correct?

Oh and then you guys are like afraid to join the coalition in Iraq, but you’re afraid not to, too. So, you send a few troops and cut and run at the first sign of trouble. Total fucking cowardice. At least have the courage of your convictions. At least France acted like a real country. But, I guess I really can’t blame you. Fighting terrorists isn’t exactly the same as torturing jews, or systematically exterminating indigenous peoples. Not quite the Spanish cup of tea.

But I don’t mean to be hard on the Spanish. They have of course made many contributions to world culture. Like… Machismo (which the Spanish confuse with manhood) and Antonio Banderas.
I do have to admit that Antonio Banderas is pretty cool. Seriously.

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Far be for me to defend RedFury, but wow. Just wow. **Scylla ** that is one of the most asinine, meanest, just plain nastiest posts I’ve seen on this board… well ever.

So you don’t agree with a guy, why don’t you indict his entire country? Not only for what they’ve done recently, but for what the did in the fucking’ middle ages!

Let’s see, shall we blame you personally for slavery, the Trail of Tears, Jim Crow laws, and the KKK?

I guess conservatives are dicks. At least one of them is.

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This here is simply displaying ignorance, Scylla. The conviction of the Spanish people, as opposed to the Spanish government, was not to get involved in Iraq. At the first opportunity, they elected a government which better reflected their convictions.

I can also assure you that the Spanish have been fighting terrorism since long before Al-Qaida was on anyone’s radar screen. Ever hear of the ETA?

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It happens to us all the time. We are regularly reminded of our foreign policy misadventures, our warfighting tactics, and our alleged oppression. 60 years later people are still tearing into us for dropping the bomb, for Pete’s sake.

Anyway, this might not be any of my affair, but you guys might want to watch it with the slurs. Just a thought.

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Boy, he’s got you this time, Red. Nailed it, fersure fersure. Look around the world, ask folks who the biggest threat to world peace is, they’ll tell you: Spain. What with the caudillos, the mantillas, and the margaritas, you just can’t match the Spanish when it comes to international disrepute. And take note how artfully he contrasts the abysmal Spanish record on human rights and international law to the pristine purity of the USA, the Shining Citadel on the Hill!

Deft, droll, and discreet. Beat on you like a red-headed stepchild. I honestly can’t see how you can respond to such as that, so cleverly does he blend a patriotic world view with post-modernist irony! Probably tolerating Spain’s bullish insistence on participation in the Coalition is the very root of all our problems! Look how wildly unpopular America has become since it started “hanging” with the malodorous Spanish! And you should be grateful as well that he didn’t mention Spains treacherous backstab attack on the Maine! And how America was forced to free the Phillipines from the iron frijoles of Spanish rule and place it under the tender ministrations of the US Marines!

No, best to remain silent, Red Furry. Got you dead to rights. Sometimes all you can do is cuss and pick some teeth off the ground.

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Indeed, but sometimes it’s the better part of valor to rise above it. I’m tired of political discourse being “he did it first”!

However, I think you can agree that bitching about something in recent history (i.e. dropping the bomb) is far different than bitching about the Crusades.

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In a thread which began by arguing the merits to progressives of not resisting the extremists’ smears against truthtellers, we have a respondent illustrating the concept’s judolike effectiveness while trying to gainsay it. The longer the dude posts, the more obvious the moral bankruptcy of his position becomes. Add to that the bold injunction to Red Fury (and presumably the other “pussies” in the thread) against false witness, and the irony would be delicious - were it not for the fits of nausea induced by large doses of bile.

Getting away from the locally ridiculous to the nationally sublime, I think we’re seeing in Ms. Sheehan the beginning of the neoconservative unravelling. Those who say she’s already been answered by Mr. Bush are quite correct, and quite perceptive to insist that her questions aren’t in earnest search of a truthful response. Now that she’s come out and identified the war and occupation for the raw exercise in venal arrogance it is -with popular support and agreement- she wants, IMHO, to force the President to come out and polish the turd some more. I think she’s practicing a variant of the OP’s strategy in pursuit of her goal of “putting a political stake [through George W. Bush’s] black heart…”

Speaking truth simply and insistently puts that political stake right in Mr. Bush’s own grasping fingers. I for one will be cheering him on as he pounds it into his chest.

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I agree with you on that, but once the bombs start falling it’s only natural to respond in kind. It’s a tough instinct to resist.

It’s recent history inasmuch as there are still people alive who remember it. It happened 31 years before I was born, so as far as I am concerned it is ancient history, and beating me and my country to death for something that happened well before my birth is no more legitimate than beating a Spaniard to death for Guernica. It’s done, it’s remembered, in some cases it’s regretted, and that’s that.

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I agree, if it were just Guernica, but the Conquistadors, and Crusades which were used for weapons.

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Speaking on condition of super-duper double-secret background confidentiality, highly placed sources are letting it be known that the location of “Ms. S.”, the shadowy leader of Gold Star Moms for Terror, has been pinpointed. Sound truck armed with Clint Black CD’s are moving into position as we speak, and Gallagher’s Army is deploying to prevent exfiltration to Texarkana or Austin.

“For her own safety, we must consider moving Ms. Shehan to a secure location, someplace under direct military control. Perhaps somewhere offshore, where the tiresome vexations of the Constitution aren’t applicable.”

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“Zazpiak Bat.”

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I see, but classifying me and some entire group he assumes I belong to as chickenhawk warmongers out to kill “ragheads,” isn’t?