Let's cheer the right-wing smear machine!

Once again. “He did it first”, is not political discourse.

Moreover, you didn’t just say that he personally is an anti-semitic, cowardly, genocidal maniac, you said that all Spaniards are anti-semitic, cowardly, genocidal maniacs. I think that’s ridiculous. Obviously, you disagree.

I’m not going after him, you silly snot, you were. I was agreeing with you.

Interesting that you would bring up Clinton.

Regards,
Shodan

No. But I’m trying to help him so that he can come to terms and understand his own bigotry and prejudice by seeing it reflected back at him.

Moreover, you didn’t just say that he personally is an anti-semitic, cowardly, genocidal maniac, you said that all Spaniards are anti-semitic, cowardly, genocidal maniacs. I think that’s ridiculous. Obviously, you disagree.
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Untrue. Untrue. I did not say that. I said that Spain had one of the worst records of genocide and anti-semitism.

I also specifically exempted Antonio Banderas.

What a thread!

IMHO, Ms. Sheehan wants Bush to apologize for making the decision to go to war, and comfort her in her loss. If I were Bush, and genuinely believed the WMD threat Iraq posed and made this difficult decision to send troops into battle, I would publicly apologize just as Blair did. For whatever reason, Bush doesn’t have the honor to do so. Or, as he said during the debates, in a piece of mis-leading logic, one cannot fight a war which is openly acknowledged to be based on mistaken intelligence.

“Oh, look… I broke this thing, but it wasn’t a mistake because if it were, I couldn’t fix it”

So, in conclusion, I have to agree with people that Ms. Sheehan is wasting her time. Even if she meets Bush, nothing will come out of it.

Well then, not much of a stretch to conclude that Bugleboy, of the 101st Keyboarders, is fighting mad.

Oooooh! Watch me ::::shuddder:::: at the completetly irrelevant venom spewing forth from his laptop! Man the monitors, lethal bytes incoming!

Fuckin’ pathetic, weasel. Your tough guy Internet persona, impresses none but the already deluted such as yourself.

Not much to address in that fetid pile, but FWIW, I actually see quite a few paralels between our past crooked empire and your current one. Then again, I’m not about to explain them to you for that would presume that you’d read a history book or two. Fat chance.

As for facists and Franco, again, fight your own ignorance, Bugleboy – as in why and how he came to power and who helped him stay there for all those decades. BTW, I have little doubt that your own Fearless Misleader would carry on famously with El Generalisimo were he not, still, dead. Aznar did try to resucitate the bastard, and other than becoming one of Georgie’s best pals, all it got him was the boot back home.

Good fuckin’ ridance to the lying cretin. Surely there’s a lesson yet to be learned by the majority of Americans. Too bad you keep having to learn in blood – yours and others regrettably. Well, by "yours’, I don’t literally mean obvious cowards as yourself, Scylla, but rather kids such as the subject of this thread.

One’s a sad case, the other is just plain pathetic. I’ll leave it to the sagacious reader to figure out which is which.

Enjoy the rest of your day, cumstain.

PS-Antonio Banderas?! You’ve got to be fuckin’kidding me! Asshole couldn’t act himself outta of a paper bag. Then again, what else should I expect from a Neanderthal such as yourself? That you’d know who Javier Bardem was for instance? There’s another fat chance.

Pearls/swine and all that.

This is not meant in any way to be a slam against Ms. Sheehan, but who wants to bet that the next time Bush takes a vacation in Crawford a multitude of groups will show up for some protest or other? It’s great way to launch your message onto the national stage since the press corp has to be there, and generally has nothing to report about.

Bless her heart for being so passionate about her cause-- the idea that we should bring the troops home-- but she’s tilting at a nonexistent windmill. Bush is not going to cut and run, and no serious candidate for his replacement in '08 is going to do so either. With some luck, we will be drawing down the troops by then anyway. I mean, seriously, how much training do Iraqi soldiers need? Our guys are mostly young, and couldn’t have more than a few years training themselves.

What, no parting good wishes for the rag heads?

All due respect, John, but our military has been doing this for quite a while now, and is generally considered to be quite good at training foreign forces. I had the pleasure of seeing some of this firsthand, when I was in the Navy.

There is probably nobody who knows more about this subject than Robert D. Kaplan. I’d recommend looking his articles up for a quick primer of the efforts our forces are making worldwide in this area.

For instance, here’s Kaplan in the July/August 2003 Atlantic:

Some more, in the April 2005 Atlantic:

I never said othewise. I fully expect that the higly trained officers with years and years of experience will be the last to leave Iraq. But the foot soldiers, the 18, 19, and 20 year olds… surely they can be largely replaced by Iraqi men of equal age and training within the next few years. After all, they come to the job with something our best trained troops will never have-- local knowledge.

Dude, you have the best typos.

I didn’t say he could act. I just think he’s cool.

I’m a cro-mangon man you genocidal, antisemitic, fascist dog!

HA!

Oh, like that’s obscure :rolleyes: The dude was nominated for best actor. Have you eaten at his place in Madrid?

Why should it take years to train young men to be police and soilders in their own country? Why is it that after all this time Iraq has little in the way of an effective police force or army ready to fight the insurgents who want to steal their democracy?

Could it be that one or more of these?

They are reluctant to kill thier fellow countrymen for what is percieved as the American puppet government.

They fear acts of retribution against them and thier families.

Democracy sounds good but not worth all this violence.

Killing Muslims on behalf of the Infidels is a mortal sin.

It is pathetic to see someone proving the point of the OP. Keep it up Scylla!

God, I hope so!

Bush won’t meet with Cindy Sheehan again, there is too much of a chance that some of his answers could get him in dutch.
Who knows, the ear piece could malfunction so couldn’t hear what his handlers are saying.
If that happens, confused, he just may just blurt out “Poland, lets not forget about Poland!”

A mama joke?
Are you kidding me!

I guess that goes with the saying “You are what you eat.”

I’d like to see Cindy Sheehan and Natalee Holloway’s mom duke it out in the mud for the prime cable talk-show slots. :smiley:

Gee, that works on so many levels…

You know, I just realized that it’s been 10 years since Jerry Garcia died. That means the Deadheads have been pretty much aimless for the last decade. I’m sure that the Cindy Sheehan protest is just the kind of ‘cause’ that gives these losers an excuse to thumb a ride down to Crawford and sit in the dirt and sing protest songs to each other. I’ll bet they feel alive, man! Yeah! Hey, don’t bogie that joint, dude…

First off, let’s say right off that Mrs. Sheehan has every right to her opinion, and I, for one, won’t fault her for it.

The essential qustion for me is whether this would be a huge media event under other circumstances. Like, say, a Democratic president. And I think all evidence shows that it would not be one.

I’m reminded of the reactions of some family members after the Mogadishu incident. Reports were that when Clinton went to Walter Reed to see some of the troops, some of them refused to have their pictures taken with him.

In addition, the father of Medal of Honor awardee Randy Shughart refused to shake Clinton’s hand, and told him point blank that he wasn’t fit to be president or commander-in-chief.

Now, this is public knowlege, to anybody who cares to look it up. Mark Bowden reported on it extensively. But there didn’t seem to be a huge media swarm here, which is, one must admit, not the rule when it comes to the Clinton administration.

Now, the circumstances were a bit different, I’ll grant. We were out of Somalia when the Medal of Honor citations were written, so this incident couldn’t be seen as opposition to an ongoing war. Thus, it was a bit less dramatic. It does seem to indicate, though, that the Sheehan story is on TV solely because it makes good TV, and the Shughart snub wasn’t because it wouldn’t have been.

Well, it was less dramatic. Now had he camped out for two weeks where Clinton was on vacation, perhaps it would have been equally dramatic, and then I suspect it would have been widely reported.

The headline:

U.S. Lowers Sights On What Can Be Achieved in Iraq

The punchline:

What? You mean you can’t make your own anymore? :smack:


Busywork for our very own 101st Keyboarders.

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