Let's look to the Nazis regarding immigration

What an asshat.

Watch for members of the far starting immigrant “camps”.

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50198

:eek: Um, he does realize that mere “deportation” wasn’t what the Nazis were up to, doesn’t he?

Well, if Madagascar had been closer. Or, more to the point, if other nations had been less anti-Semitic and had accepted or (the horror!) pushed to accept the Jewish population, forced emigration may have worked. Pre-war, of course.

Which isn’t to say that it isn’t the Nazi’s fault. But conversely, just because the Nazi’s did it doesn’t mean it’s automatically bad.

World Net Daily. Quelle surprise

Sure, but they got rid of them. Isn’t that what really couts? After that, who cares?

-Joe

Interestingly, deporting all the “illegals” would cost almost exactly half what the 'war on drugs" is costing us every year.

I knew WND was pretty far right, but had no idea it was neo-Nazi. Hunh.

Unfortunately, the author’s attitude doesn’t seem to be all that far away from the feelings of a significant percentage of the population. Last Saturday, I was listening to a local (Houston) radio talk show discussing Bush’s upcoming speech on this issue, and at least two of the callers I heard enthusiastically argued in favor of simply shooting persons caught trying to cross the Mexican border illegally.

Lastly, concerning this from the WND article:

Have the Minutemen actually done anything at all other than generate a lot of editorial copy? News to me.

You know, when I overthrow all legitimate terrestrial governments, install puppet rulers in their place, and set myself up as God-Emperor, I’m going to have to remember to shut worldnetdaily down. Somebody remind me.

I’m sure that now we all feel chastened, and will heed the wisdom and reason of that snot nosted momma’s boy nazi. Fuck him. Here’s a clue… if I saw an illegal and this nazi creep, I’d probably shoot the nazi.

I must be missing something in your post. Seems to me that everything the Nazi Party did was to accomplish the goal of world domination and “purification” of the human race. To me, that means everything they did, be it killing 6+ million or building highways that made it easier to move vehicles (military and civilian) is automatically bad.

Well they often blew their noses, and must have shat a hell of a lot. Ergo…

Well, I’m sure they’ve killed plenty of beers.

There is a word or two missing there, I think. The immigrant “camps” may already be built. I ran across some pretty scary stuff on the net a few months back about FEMA building detention camps, complete with guard towers, etc. ‘In case of mass invasion of aliens’ was the official line. Seemed unlikely to me. Get rid of cheap labor? Not this administration.

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/FEMA-Concentration-Camps3sep04.htm

Maybe it’s a conspiracy theory, but with this government, I think damn near anything is possible.

I think Ludovic is referring less to the actual actions of the Nazis themselves, and more to modern actions which mirror some piece of what the Nazis did.

When you overthrow all legitimate terrestrial governments, install puppet rulers in their place, and set yourself up as God-Emperor, don’t forget to shut down worldnetdaily.

I have a hard time even thinking about this guy seriously. He meanders off into incoherence a little too frequently. However, I wonder if he’s considered that rounding up one class of people is almost impossible outside of a police state.

The folks at WND would be quite content with a police state, as long as they or their co-philosophists get to be the police.

Quoted from John Aravosis:

We’re now taking the hysteria over the war on terror and turning it into a rather disturbing and familiar war against another race. George Bush and the Republican party have so terrorized the American people, made them so full of fear and hate, that the American people are starting to take it out on the “others” in our society, with the very happy collusion of our government. Our government is thinking of using the military to deal with this “problem” in our midst. Vigilante citizens groups are patrolling the country to find these others among us. Web sites are being set up to expose the companies among us who harbor these un-Americans. The #1 news channel for Republicans is calling on white people to have more babies to stop Hispanic from taking over “our” country.
Does nobody understand who and what our country is turning into? We are talking about Mexican-Americans, central Americans, and their families and friends here people. We’re not taking Al Qaeda, we’re not talking Martians. We’re talking rather normal people who all of us know. And George Bush and the Republican party have whipped this country into such a frenzy about these people that we’ve got vigilante justice taking place and talk of involving the military to - what? - shoot them?
What the hell is going on in our country? How can the majority of Americans not see what we’re becoming, and what we’ve already become? Are we so proud of ourselves, and so blindly confident of the permanence of our freedoms, that no one can even fathom the slightest possibility that those freedoms could ever be in jeopardy? Let alone fathom what those freedoms are even supposed to mean?

I agree with your concerns, but I don’t see GW Bush as the one whipping this up. He certainly hasn’t done much to stop it, but I don’t know of any time he’s used this kind of rhetoric. He seems to be interested in a guest worker program, while many of the Republicans are opposing him.

The above quote would be just as chilling, if we remove all reference to Bush. One of the loudest and most obnoxious proponents of the “anti’s” is Tancredo. Let’s substitute his name, and the quote still fits. I guess the brown menace from across the border will be the big election issue. Everything else has pretty much gone to shit, and there has to be a diversion, something to get the people riled up and turn their attention from all the other “stuff”.

Blame the scapegoat of the day for everything bad. Michelle Malkin is starting to do this, and I haven’t noticed anyone calling bullshit. She’s conflating the illegals with 9/11 in a way that almost says they did it.

I agree that George Bush personally is probably not at all anti-Hispanic, just as he personally is probably not at all anti-Muslim. And because of his ties to the business constituency, he even favors a number of policies that are friendly to Hispanic immigrants, just as he favors a number of policies that are friendly to Muslim countries such as Dubai or Saudi Arabia.

But in both cases, IMO, he’s been attempting to play both sides against the middle, and getting caught between them as a result. He whips up his right-wing base with things like references to “crusades” and scary apocalyptic rhetoric about certain Muslim heads of state, as well as cozying up to right-wing Christian leaders who are vehemently anti-Muslim . This reassures anti-Muslim conservatives that he’s on their side. But then he does things like supporting the Dubai ports deal and maintaining his personal closeness to the Saudi royal family, and apparently can’t figure out why his base doesn’t like it.

Similarly, he exploits the rhetoric of nativism and anti-Hispanic prejudice when it suits him (saying that the “Star-Spangled Banner” shouldn’t be sung in Spanish, for example). But then he puts forth his business-friendly proposals of guest worker programs and amnesty, which not surprisingly raise hackles among nativists and their ilk.

What do you think he’ll say in his speech tonight? I predict a great flourish about sending the National Guard to patrol the border and lots of tough talk about cracking down on criminals and keeping America American, but no pledges that would actually conflict with his ambitions to maintain ample access for American businesses to low-wage Hispanic workers in one form or another.