Lets play 'Configure the Router'

I have a Netgear WGR614v2 wireless router. I have a Linksys router used for my LAN, and hooked up to the DSL modem.

Problem: I want to use my laptops wireless networking so I can Dope while sitting in the living room.

How do I configure this router so that I can do this without disrupting the rest of the LAN? What should my settings on the Netgear router be? I don’t want to use the netgear router as the main router because of its inferior security and the fact that it is kind of flukey - connection comes and goes. Thanks in advance for help.

Well, you could plug a LAN port from one router in to the other one, then disable DHCP on the wireless router. That’s what I did to support wireless, since my cable modem routing is handled by my linux box.

Note that the ‘inferior security’ that you mention is going to affect you still. In the case I list above, anyone connecting wirelessly would be able to access any PC on the network (shared directories and such).

My solution is kinda half-assed - my linux box gives IP addresses 10.0.0.1-100 to MAC addresses it trusts, and 10.0.0.101-255 addresses to those it doesn’t know about. The wireless router is set to allow only limited port access to the second range, which means people connecting can surf the net and such, but not do SMB stuff.

Not that that matters, 'cause people can statically assign themselves an IP from the first range if they’re really determined to do something, plus in your case I doubt your main router supports such DHCP assignment anyway.

You could always enable WEP/WAP etc. I didn’t do this because a) Some wireless clients are Win98 boxes with limited driver support and b) If someone can’t connect and wants to, they can easily crack the encryption and get 100% access if they really want to. This way everyone gets some access, are happy, and even if they’re evil, are probably none the wiser.

Trying to get it to work now. Anyone else have an incredibly hard time changing settings with this router? The net interface just does NOT want to work right. ARRGH! :mad:

I don’t have that specific router, but I have a similar configuration. You may want to make sure you have the most recent firmware.

Netgear has an article about using a router as an access point on their site. It describes a different model router, but should be applicable to what you’re doing. Here is another how-to article.

A key point that took me a long time to get right the first time I did this is to use one of the LAN ports rather than the WAN port on the router you’re using as an access point.

I have pretty much exactly your setup (linksys router with netgear 614 set up as a wireless access point). The linksys handles DHCP for the subnet and the netgear is set just to provide wireless access to a couple of machines. In addition to the article zoltar7 linked, here’s another that might help.

I found the netgear pretty simple to set up once I quit confusing it. I jumped ahead and tried to do all the config at once, which made it difficult to turn off DHCP, etc. in a single pass. The first step should be hooking one machine to the netgear router, using “ipconfig /renew” to get an IP assigned by the netgear, and then using that connection to configure the netgear router. Once you’ve got the addresses set on the netgear to match your LAN, have DHCP turned off, etc., then you can connect the netgear to your LAN and restart it. Note that I connected a port on the netgear router (not the WAN port, one of the LAN ports) to my LAN hub without requiring a crossover cable or port.

Also, since you’re not setting this up as a stand-alone router, it is easiest to skip the netgear configuration wizard and connect straight to the basic configuration screens. To do this from a computer that’s using the netgear as a gateway (i.e. it got an IP assigned by the netgear’s DHCP) use the URL “www.routerlogin.net/basicsetting.htm”. Once you have this set up where the netgear is just an access point, it won’t trap the “routerlogin.net” domain from all the machines on the LAN, but you can still access it using the netgear’s IP address.

I just plug the cable from the DSL router into the switch port of the wireless router, not the router port. This way, the router just acts as a dumb switch, forwarding everything. To clarify, My router has 1 port labelled “internet” and then 4 other ports that you can attach machines to. I plug the cable into 1 of the 4 ports.

I’ve got the router configured properly. Now I’m having trouble with the PC end of it. I’d like as seamless an integration as possible between the connections. I’d like to have my ethernet plugged in while sitting at the desk, and just unplug and go when its time to move to the living room to watch the Daily Show.

I can’t seem to get that part working right. Should I bridge the connections, or no?

Also should mention, I can’t seem to get my AIM connection to stay alive when I unplug the ethernet.

You shouldn’t need to bridge the connections.

I don’t use AIM, but if it works like Windows Messenger, it will sign out and back in when you switch network connections.

Woo!

Everything is set up and working properly. Thanks for the help, guys! :slight_smile: