It would be one thing to heckle the wife of a guy who started an unnecessary war that cost over a trillion dollars and a million lives (and I’m not sure Laura Bush was ever heckled, I’m just assuming). Its an entirely different thing to heckle the wife of a guy that has probably done more for YOUR cause than any other President in modern history.
I’m not saying that we have reached the finish line on gay rights but this woman is like the PETA of LGBT.
Unlike PETA, she had a reasonable point. Like PETA, she should have found a better way to express that point.
And it would make more sense to heckle the PotUS about it than the FLotUS.
She’s affiliated with a group that has heckled the POTUS too.
And there’s still more to do. It’s not like there’s a threshold of good deeds, beyond which a powerful leader may be free from heckling or criticism. I agree that heckling isn’t the most productive form of effecting change, nor is Michelle Obama the correct target, but it’s remarkable that people are more concerned that someone was rude (the nerve!) to the First Lady, than with the activist’s message. God forbid we plebs be rude to people in power.
It’s not a very good idea to be rude to the guy (or gal) who is most supportive of your position.
I don’t know what people you’re referring to, but on lefty blogs, the main reaction has been that (a) heckling is part of politics, and (b) they’re amused that the heckler was upset that people were rude to her.
This.
Indeed, quite generally, heckling the powerful is a legitimate and appropriate form of political protest in a free society, regardless of which “side” either party involved is on.
Nitpick - I think the fact that it is neither legitimate nor appropriate at the time it is done is the reason why it is effective.
Uh no, we get the fucking message. The problem with the jack ass heckler is that she was preaching to the choir in the most annoying way possible.
Not only that, but her demands weren’t even grounded in reality. I mean, really? Sign an executive order forcing gay rights? Do you really think that’s going to happen? Even if he did sign that order, do you think it would help gay issues in the long run?? No, it wouldn’t, because guess what the next President is going to do once he/she gets into office.
Yeah, Obama mandating hospitals allow same-sex partners visitation rights is just short sighted bullshit. Let’s just sit on our hands and wait for proper legislation while loved ones are dying in the hospital.
Yep. Glad you understand.
As is usual for the Empty Suit President, it’s a lot of hot air. He “mandated” it but there has not been a single action taken against any of the multiple hospitals who have violated the order in the past three years. It’s kind of like his “support” for gay marriage backed by no legislation or action whatsoever.
Nobody would know who Michelle Obama is if her husband wasn’t the President. You want to ride coattails to celebrity, you take your lumps for the shortcomings of the man who got you there.
Coming from someone who thinks it’s ok to end a life over $150, I don’t think I’ll ever understand your viewpoint.
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As is usual for the Empty Suit President, it’s a lot of hot air. He “mandated” it but there has not been a single action taken against any of the multiple hospitals who have violated the order in the past three years. It’s kind of like his “support” for gay marriage backed by no legislation or action whatsoever.
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I’ve seen one incident in Maryland (that was resolved with an apology) and one in Missouri (which has ongoing litigation and a convoluted story by the hospital). So, it does seem like it’s been a relative success unless you’re able to produce more stories where it isn’t.
I like how an empty suit full of hot air has ended DADT, mandated hospital visits, and…
June 17, 2009: “Ordered the federal government to extend key benefits to same-sex partners of federal employees.”
June 29, 2009: “Hosted the first-ever White House LGBT Pride reception.”
August 12, 2009: “Awarded the highest civilian honor, the Medal of Freedom, to Billie Jean King and Harvey Milk.”
October 28, 2009: “Signed the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act into law.”
October 21, 2009: “Created a National Resource Center for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Elders.”
January 1, 2010: “Banned discrimination in federal workplaces based on gender identity.”
January 4, 2010: “Lifted the ban that prohibited people with HIV/AIDS from entering the United States.”
March 23, 2010: “Enacted the Affordable Care Act, reforming health care in America by lowering costs, expanding choice, and improving health care quality.”
April 15, 2010: “Ensured hospital visitation and medical decision-making rights for gay and lesbian patients.”
June 22, 2010: “Released America’s first comprehensive plan to prevent and end homelessness, which includes homeless LGBT youth.”
June 22, 2010: “Clarified the Family and Medical Leave Act to ensure family leave for LGBT employees.”
June 9, 2010: “Allowed transgender Americans to receive true gender passports without surgery.”
October 1, 2010: “Awarded a grant to the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Community Services Center to work with LGBT foster youth.”
October 21, 2010: “Recorded ‘It Gets Better’ video to support LGBT youth experiencing bullying.”
December 21, 2010: “Led a United Nations measure to restore ‘sexual orientation’ to the definition of human rights.”
December 22, 2010: “Signed the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.’”
March 10, 2011: “Hosted first-ever White House Conference on Bullying Prevention in America’s schools.”
February 23, 2011: “Declared the Defense of Marriage Act unconstitutional and announced the administration will no longer defend it in court.”
March 31, 2011: “Completed an Institute of Medicine study on LGBT health, the first of its kind.”
May 27, 2011: “Issued guidance to foster safer working environments for transgender federal employees.”
July 19, 2011: “Endorsed the Respect for Marriage Act, a legislative effort to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act.”
September 15, 2011: “Ended the Social Security Administration’s gender ‘no-match’ letters.”
August 19, 2011: “Supported lesbian widow Edith Windsor in her suit against DOMA.”
August 18, 2011: “Clarified the meaning of ‘family’ to include LGBT relationships, helping to protect bi-national families threatened by deportation.”
September 20, 2011: “Implemented the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.’”
September 30, 2011: “Permitted military chaplains to officiate same-sex marriages where legal.”
October 1, 2011: “Addressed the annual Human Rights Campaign dinner for the second time.”
October 20, 2011: “Awarded Citizen’s Medal to Janice Langbehn, lesbian mother whose story paved the way for hospital visitation rights for same-sex couples.”
October 13, 2011: “Allison Nathan become second openly gay appointee to be confirmed to the federal bench under President Obama’s administration.”
October 31, 2011: “Included specific data on health needs of lesbian and bisexual women in the Health Resources and Services Administration’s ‘Women’s Health USA 2011’ federal report.”
November 1, 2011: “In his presidential proclamation of National Adoption Month, President Obama called for equal treatment for same-sex adoptive parents.”
December 6, 2011: “Created first-ever U.S. government strategy dedicated to combating human rights abuses against LGBT persons abroad.”
December 1, 2011: “On World AIDS Day, recommitted the U.S. to creating an AIDS-free generation.”
January 8, 2012: “Announced HUD’s new rule protecting against housing discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.”
February 2, 2012: “Announced White House LGBT Conference Series to address issues affecting LGBT Americans, including health, housing and safety.”
February 7, 2012: “Promoted equal access to quality health care by enabling searches for health plans with same-sex partner benefits on Healthcare.gov.”
February 13, 2012: “Proposed a 2013 federal budget for an economy built to last, including providing security for the LGBT community.”
March 16, 2012: “Came out against North Carolina’s Amendment 1, which would prohibit same-sex marriage in the state.”
March 15, 2012: “Michael Fitzgerald, fourth openly gay nominee under President Obama, is confirmed to the federal bench in California.”
March 2012: “Ensured transgender veterans receive respectful care according to their true gender through the Veterans Health Administration
(Obama Touts List Of 40 Gay Rights Achievements | On Top Magazine | LGBT News & Entertainment)
What a lazy dick. :mad:
Since we’re tossing accusations about hot air around, you wouldn’t mind backing up that mention of “multiple hospitals who have violated the order” with a citation, would you?
How do you measure effectiveness?
Mandates and executive orders are not the same thing. He can mandates all he wants to. Signing an executive order is just going to piss off the right and eventually do more harm than good.
Also, I’m like 90% sure our next President is going to be Republican.
If it’s the same as your "ominis (sic) Al Gore - Bush feeling"I think we’re good.
Why does the person who was discriminated against have to bring suit himself and pay the fees? Shouldn’t the federal government be bringing suit to enforce the “mandate”? Your reading comprehension is poor. My claim is “the mandate is toothless because it’s not being enforced.” Your response is “but there’s a mandate” and an example of it not being enforced.
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LOL dude, WTF? Are you stalking me?