Sorry, I liked hearing that that I had to repeat it.
I love it!
President Obama.
President Barack Obama.
President Barack Hussein Obama.
First Lady Michelle Obama.
Vice President Joe Biden.
It all sounds so marvelously wonderful!
“Liberal bullying”?
Yeah, I clearly remember when I was getting wedgied back in 2nd grade, all the taunts … “That’s for McGovern! That’s for Muskie! Fuck Nixon! Now where’s my nickel?”
Enjoy! You guys earned it.
I see. So when liberals of the late sixties, the seventies and eighties preached tolerance, they didn’t really mean tolerance…they just meant tolerance for what they favored.
They should have said so.
Yes, as we all know, conservative students never bully anyone. :rolleyes: Jackass.
Ah, I see. So what you’re saying is that your a complete full of shit blow hard who just puts words into people’s mouths so you can claim it as pure truth and proof that you above all are a shining paragon of virtue.
Fuck, I hate that fucking arguing technique. It sounds like it should be accompanied by a nice teenagery “tsk” and an “oh yea?”
You keep just saying the word tolerance, like it’s magical and all-encompassing. Have liberals ever preached universal, all-encompassing tolerance? Have liberals as a whole ever claimed that we should silently let political viewpoints we find abhorrent go unchallenged, for fear that those that hold them will not feel sufficiently tolerated?
Somebody already posted that link, in this very thread.
If you read the article, it says that this pretty blonde hockey player was assaulted by four big mean black girls who bounced her head off a wall and gave her a concussion. She didn’t tell anyone about it until the next day, when the athletic trainer said she probably had a concussion. Of course, she refused medical treatment. (What’s up with all the conservative assault victims refusing to be examined by actual doctors?) She went through the surveillance tapes with the police, but this Gang of Four wasn’t anywhere to be seen. School officials and the police agree that the assailants, whoever they were, probably weren’t students.
So, what we have here is a blonde Republican with a persecution complex (she was booed at the welcoming events, her roommate was a “PETA Person” who had to be removed from the dorm, et cetera) who gets beat up by four (4?!) black girls inside her dorm.
My guess is that they weren’t actually black girls, they were just girls wearing black. Yeah, ninjas. Ninjas infiltrating our college dormitories–using their ninja powers to avoid detection–and assaulting white girls.
Seems like the most likely scenario to me.
True dat.
No, I’d say conservatives like to hold liberals up to the standards they’ve been claiming to posess all along. After all, it hasn’t been conservatives who’ve been evangelizing for the last forty-five years about how ‘tolerant’, ‘evolved’ and ‘enlightened’ they are.
No, of course not. But there’s a big difference between not being tolerant of, say, fascism, and not being tolerant of normal, everyday, conservativism. And there’s a big difference between trying to persuade someone to change their mind and telling them they are evil for holding a perfectly reasonable political position.
The point is, they didn’t strictly define it. The message (and scorn for those supposedly lacking it) was tolerance…period.
Conservatives have been evangelizing that they’re in favour of small government and lower taxes. And yet, I don’t see them calling for the states to be seperated or taxes to be abolished. What hypocrites!
Alternately, of course, I might look at the actual opinions and writings of those conservatives, to discover what they actually mean, rather than selecting single words or phrases and declaring what it is that is meant. On the other hand, you’re self confessed that conservatives “like to hold liberals” - how about a hug? 
My point is that the liberal message of tolerance has nothing to do with tolerating different political positions, and never has.
People should be tolerant of different political positions, of course, but that should be because we’re all Americans living in a democracy, not because it’s the platform of a given political party. People being people, many of all political persuasions are bad about giving views they disagree with a fair hearing, especially when they’re in a local majority. I don’t think liberals are worse than anyone else in this regard.
Again, YOU are the one holding Liberals to an impossible standard, and acting shocked when they don’t embrace any and all opposing viewpoints. Makes it easier to argue, I guess.
Of course, by your argument, Conservatives are intolerant bigots… but at least they’re *truthful *about being intolerant bigots.
I too was mocked by my class for wanting a Republican for president. Damned vicious liberals!
Of course, this was in 1976 and I was in early grade school. You know, after Ford pardoned Nixon and made himself pretty much unelectable.
And I only voted for him because my dad owned a Mustang and I thought Gerald Ford owned the company or something.
(I loved that car.)
(I’m a liberal, btw.)
Agreed, kids are brutal, and tend to pick at any difference. I know I did in grade school just trying to fit in and not become the next one on the other side of taunts. Middle school seems the worst time for this sort of behavior, and it’s not all right, no matter who’s doing it.
But you don’t see us claiming that we only meant that for causes we favored, either.
Sure. Come here, ya big lug! (No humping though, okay?)
Why, they could have meant anything! Tolerance for chewing with your mouth open and spitting crumbs of food on people! Tolerance for demonstrations of beastiality in front of grade school children! Tolerance for random crotch kicking on our city’s streets!
Damn those liberals for being so secretive and circumspect with their beliefs!
It’s so simple that any child could easily grasp the concept.
We desire a world in which people are not discriminated against for the way they are born, and for things that have absolutely no effect on the rest of us. Be tolerant of blacks, because they don’t deserve to be held back based on the color of their skin. Be tolerant of women, because they deserve the basic rights of any human. Be tolerant of gays, because what they do behind closed doors harms me in no way. What we do not have to be tolerant of is those who wish to oppress blacks, women, and gays.
Is that really that difficult to understand?
Nope.
Does a child being kicked off a school bus for chanting about “President Obama” (after the election) cancel it out? If not, could you start a RO thread about that, too, please? I’m busy.
-Joe
True, but in fairness, they have provided some shining examples of “personal responsibility,” “family values,” and “limited government”…