Pretty interesting interviews, IMO.
Typical overzealous response from the shithead few.
mangeorge
Molly Ivins wrote that Midland, TX, where George W. Bush spent the later part of his childhood, is so conservative… (How conservative is it?) that Midland’s homosexuals stayed in the closet, for fear that they’d be called liberals. 
That was not a precise quote. It has been a few years since I read Shrub.
I live in Houston. I’m very liberal. I’m not black or hispanic. I’m not anti-gun.
Close enough.
Aren’t most homosexuals pretty conservative? I think so.
Which brings up my still favorite bumper sticker;
“A village in Texas is missing an idiot”.
And most blacks and hispanics I know are pretty conservative.
But, to the subject, do you support “reasonable” gun regulation"
I think that’s what Gary was talking about. Waiting periods, registration, and all that. Especially for handguns.
mangeorge
Your definition of “reasonable” is entirely unreasonable.
And no matter how thin you slice it, it’s still baloney.
Socially, perhaps. In my experience, they’re usually more liberal economically.
I don’t think the measures you mentioned are reasonable. And FWIW, I do not own a gun and have no particular plans to.
Just to nitpick … the only satellite photo on that page is the one — actually a montage of many photos — way down at the bottom of the page, showing what the U.S. would look like at night without any cloud cover.
You’re referring of course to the map near the top — which is neither a photo, nor was it produced by a satellite. (I’d say we have a serious blight problem of some sort if that’s what the U.S. really looks like from above.)
Do think anybody should be able to just walk into a gun shop and walk out with a ,45 and a couple boxes of ammo? I am an owner, and I enjoy shooting (targets), but that idea makes me kinda nervous. I also have a pocket gun for carry and a shotgun for home defense should I ever feel the need for either. So far they’ve both been kept locked up in my safe. I hope they stay there.
As long as you pass the NICS background check (or your state’s background check, as some states have their own state-level equivalent of the federal NICS database), why not?
Hey, ExTank, how’s it going.
To the subject: even the background check’s a regulation, isn’t it.
I don’t know. I’m growing less patient as I get older. I hate waiting ten days. But I do think that it doesn’t hurt to require a little effort. My personal beef is the FFL fee I have to pay. I bought an old Mossberg .22 for $90 (I think it was) and paid a $75 fee. I timed the transaction at both meets, and it totalled about 15 min.
I don’t know the stats, but I could see a guy getting his ass kicked (in front of his buds) and walking in to get a gun and taking out a few spectators going after the ass kicker. I realize he could do with his car, or a sharp stick, 
but that’s not what we’re talking about here. We’re talking about reasonableness.
Wholesale banning = unreasonable.
Waiting 10 days = inconvenient. Annoying.
Peace,
mangeorge
Welcome to sunny California.
With instant checks, waiting periods seem more-and-more like what gun-rights activists have always claimed they were: the government conditioning you wait until they tell you it’s okay to have your guns; and once you’re used to 5 days, they make it 10, then 30, then 60, then 90. Until there comes a point when you don’t bother even trying, because you don’t want to wait 6 months to get a gun.
Viola. Defacto gun ban.
Not because they made guns illegal or anything (“Good heavens, no! We don’t want to take anyone’s guns away!”); but because they’ve made it such a pain in the ass that no one even bothers trying to buy one. Legally, that is.
The old slippery slope. eh? I’ve seen you do better, buddy. I’ve referred antis to your posts.
FFL fees in CA vary from $20 to about $75. The one I’ve used gets the $75. I prefer not to do business with 1%‘ers.
Most dealers don’t want to bother, not because of the government, but because so many gun buyers change their minds and expect the dealers to get their money back.
My regular dealer, a cool guy, will only do FTF’s and he doesn’t like even that.
Btw; the weather has been beautiful here lately. I tend to get jaded, and forget how good I really do have it.
You should come out some springtime, and take HWY 1 up the coast. All the way. Rent a Porshe.
Stop by the Bay Area, and we’ll have a friendly pissin’ contest at a local range where I’m a member. You will have to follow a few reasonable rules, though.
Take it easy, pal, and
Peace
Tossing this to Great Debates.
Tossing this off my “subscribed” list.
Peace,
mangeorge
There is certainly an anti-gun movement in Texas, especially in the big cities as mentioned above. It isn’t very popular – much like in Wyoming and other states with large rural areas, hunting is a way of life for many Texans. But even still, I know quite a few hunters who wouldn’t mind more regulation on handguns and so forth. There is also increasing environmental concerns, especially in Houston in regard to air quality, although I’m sure that lags behind elsewhere as well given our petrobusiness background.
FWIW, I have lived in Texas since I was 2, I have always voted Democrat, I have never hunted, I think most guns are a public safety menace (having worked in a county ER), but I think it is silly to try and make them illegal.
The history of the Democratic Party in Texas is certainly checkered, but we have produced our share of famous liberal politicians. In fact, if one were not to limit one’s view to the past 15 years, I would say we are more known for our liberals than we are for our conservatives: LBJ, Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards, Ralph Yarborough, Sheila Jackson Lee, Bob Bullock, Sam Rayburn, Lloyd Doggett, Lloyd Bentsen, etc.
Since Texas does not require that guns be registered (or even that gun owners licensed), that’s flat wrong.
The so-called gun show loophole refers to gun sales at gun shows between private persons for which the NICS background check is not required. There is no requirement, either federal or in Texas, that gun sales between private citizens (as opposed to a sale transacted thru a federal firearms licensee) to go thru the NICS process. All guns sales between private individuals are exempt from the NICS check regardless of where they take place. We see then that there is no such thing as a “gun show loophole;” it is a misnomer deliberately perpetrated by the anti-gun rights organizations in order to persuade the uninformed that there’s something sinister about gun shows and the firearms transactions that take place there.
Regarding waiting periods - these are only useful for first-time purchasers. I mean, if a waiting period is supposed to be a “cooling off period” so that persons can’t buy and use a gun in an immediate rage, then they’re entirely useless against persons who already own a gun, right? Wouldn’t they just use the one they have at hand?
And this leads logically to the fatal flaw of waiting periods even for first-time buyers. In order to implement a “cooling off period” effectively, a national gun registration database, in which every transaction is recorderd, must first be in place. Else, you cannot know which gun purchasers are first time buyers.
And your thinking is mostly wrong. The vastly overwhelming majority of guns are never used for anything but hunting and target shooting - both legitimate pursuits. They are in no way a menace to to public safety.
I wouldn’t argue against the old slippery slope on gun laws / gun bans if I was in CA. They’ve banned semi-automatic rifles, magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, .50 BMG rifles, and used handgun re-sale by licensed dealers that are legal in most of the other 49 states. Then old San Fran went out and banned handguns.
I’m in Texas. I’m probably going to vote Democratic this year because of how so many Republicans handled illegal immigration. The interference of religous fundamentalism is also leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I still don’t want to be regulated out of business or support gun control even though I’ve sold all my personal firearms but my Great Grandfather’s Winchester 1886.