Liberals' New Year's Resolutions

The BBQ Pit
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:eek: Jeebus MyFootsZZZ, you nearly gave me a heart attack thinking I’d misread the forum ID. Don’t do that! :wink: No but seriously, thanks. :slight_smile:

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I’m sick to death of categorization though… Why can’t you be Kimstu, and I be MyFootsZZZ?
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Well, deny thy father and refuse thy name, and… oops sorry, wrong play. Anyway, as the fellow said, labels aren’t what divide us, they’re what define us. Whether I like it or not, there is no way for me to be “just Kimstu” without all the gender/race/language/culture/etc. identities that form the substrate of Kimstu.

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I’m sick of the fighting all together though. I just want everyone to live in a fair world…
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I sympathize. But for that to even come close to happening, we have to point out errors where we see them. Not spray maledictions at Trump voters wholesale, but fight the ignorance about things that they’re claiming that just ain’t so.

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Dunham imho trivialized something that’s very emotional for some… Imho.
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I agree that her remark can come across that way. My point was just that it doesn’t appear that she meant to trivialize abortion or the experience of having had one. Rather, she was saying essentially that solidarity requires people to be shoulder to shoulder rather than at arm’s length, if you see what I mean.

In other words, no fair chanting “Abortion Is A Human Right! (oh but please don’t get the mistaken idea that I’ve ever had one! No no, I am free of that taint! Let’s see, where was I? oh yes) Abortion Is A Human Right!”

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After all, we’ve got Der Trihs for that. :rolleyes:

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Does anybody really take Lena Dunham seriously? I find myself cringing every time I hear her.

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Clinton did.

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Are you guys really so fucking knee deep in this PC bullshit that you’re going to double down on this trash instead of acknowledging it’s grotesqueness?

I’m a conservative who voted for Hillary and I’m fucking telling you to STOP THIS CONDESCENDING DEMONIZATION OF WHITE MALES OR YOU WILL CONTINUE TO EMPOWER THE PEOPLE WHO CAPITALIZE ON THE FALLOUT. LIKE THE ASSBAG WHO’S ABOUT TO HAVE HIS FINGER ON THE BUTTON.

A part of me enjoys seeing the left melt. But not at the expense of my country. Pull your heads out of your asses, please.

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Dude… :dubious:

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There, there, dear. The nice young people in the video are a bit smug and self-righteous but they’re not actually “demonizing” you.

Being gently advised, for example, that it looks kind of foolish for white guys to talk about being “woke”, and kind of absurd for Fox News to obsess about Beyonce’s involvement with black-specific issues, is not the same thing as being “demonized”.

Sorry about the “condescending” part, but honestly, it is very difficult not to be condescending toward (hopefully imaginary) people who are overreacting so melodramatically. If anybody’s genuine response to remarks like “Blue Lives Matter isn’t a thing” is really something along the lines of “OMG STOP DEMONIZING ME OR I’M GONNA EMPOWER A FALLOUT AND RE-ELECT TRUMP!!!1!”, well, what on earth can you say to them except “There, there, dear”?

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What I love about this is, the Republican party put Donald Trump in the White House, and you can somehow still make this the Democrats’ fault.

Seriously. Every time you’re about to type, “Well, liberals did…” stop and remember that you belong to the party of Donald Trump. Even if you didn’t vote for him (and let’s all stop and marvel and just how stupid the average Trump supporter must be if even Stringbean voted for Hillary!) you voted for every other step in the long, torturous road that led to his nomination. Good on you for blinking at the last second, but if assholes like yourself had woken up eight years back, we’d never have found ourselves at this particular abyss.

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I’m a white male, and I haven’t been feeling condescended to or demonized at all. But then I didn’t vote fhr the ASSBAG either.

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And this. If Trump is so great (at least for an ASSBAG), then why blame anyone for his having won???
It’s too much like “Oh shit he won. WTF do we do now”… which is pretty damn funny in a way.

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Calm the fuck down, dude. It’s just a bunch of SJWs wagging their fingers at people, like they usually do. MTV is a freaking joke. You know, not all of us liberals are like these jagoffs, just like not all conservatives are troglodytes who voted for Agent Orange.

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Has anyone asked why the liberals’ New Years Resolutions for 2017 seem to be getting Trump reelected 3 years before the next election?

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Entertainment value?

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You are one whiny bitch.

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What, exactly, about the video is so “grotesque”? What, exactly, is in this video that is sooooo fucking horrible that it makes you worry that white men will flip their shit and retreat into their defensive little shells? Is it maybe the reminder that “Black Lives Matter” is not at odds with “All Lives Matter”, a true and clear statement that somehow a great many people, including people given cable TV news shows, still don’t understand? Is it maybe the objection that “blue lives matters” is stupid, a true and clear statement that anyone not ass-backwards should figure out by now? Is it maybe the statement that mansplaining exists, and people should cut it out? What, exactly, about this video is supposed to be so fucking offensive? What, exactly, should produce this insane overreaction?

WAAAAAAAAH! MY FEE FEES ARE HURT! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

The only thing that’s insulting me, as a white guy, is your condescending opinion of us. You know what I find really interesting about this video? It finishes with the qualifier, “Some of you guys are doing great. Some of you.” Where have I heard something like that before?

Oh right.

“When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.”

See, it’s perfectly fine for the president to stand up and say far worse things about illegal immigrants. Not just saying that they should pay more attention to minority issues or stop mansplaining, but calling them rapists and drug dealers. And you’ll hear every conservative news outlet defend that shit on the grounds that, “Hey, he said some of them are good people!” But pull that shit on white men with critiques that they can just brush right off, and critiques which aren’t likely to lead to their social marginalization or hate crimes, and all of sudden, the response is, “WAAAAAH MY PRIVILEGE IS BEING CHECKED, I’MMA VOTE TRUMP AGAIN!”

Stop fucking condescending to me and my family, please.

You first. How should we address issues of race, racism, sex, sexism, etc. if every time even the mildest complaint is lobbed at the dominant social class in America, they act like we portrayed them all as though they were the pigfuckers in Deliverance, and then turned right around and acted like the pigfuckers in Deliverance?

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I don’t think even the OP believes what he wrote. It’s just a way to piss people off.

I mean, since when does Stringbean support safe spaces and political correctness? Yet here he is whining about how somebody said something that hurt his feewings.

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Mixed in with Dire Warnings about how “if you deluded liberals continue to hurt the feewings of white males then they will pitch a fallout and EMPOWER THE ASSBAGS!! BEWAAAAAARE!! TWO-TERM TRUMP!!!” :rolleyes:
White males, welcome to the world that everybody else has been inhabiting all their lives, in which some smug irrelevant goober is continually popping up to deliver an unsolicited lecture on how Your Kind of People “ought” to behave if they wish to be considered acceptable.

It’s understandable that you’ll find this somewhat invasive and distressing at first, but don’t worry, you’ll get used to it. All the rest of us have.

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Mostly, I’m pissed off at the idea that they lost by three million votes, and we’re the ones who need to worry about a backlash next election?

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Pffft, the OP’s “backlash” talk is just the electoral equivalent of a toddler tantrum threat. Any white guy whose ego is genuinely so fragile that a video clip of earnest folks talking gentle smack about some widespread white-guy behaviors can really send him into full-on revenge-voting mode 3.5 years early is not somebody capable of being reasoned with.

Sure, I have no doubt that some white male voters who get their feefees hurt by PC talk would be willing to vote for a second Trump administration purely out of spite because PC-talking people tend not to like Trump. But where the OP makes his (main) error is in believing that such oversensitive voters ought to be pandered to or conciliated.

Toddlers gonna throw tantrums, but the wise grownup doesn’t validate such destructive behavior by obsequiously deferring to tantrum threats. When toddlers are allowed to get away with blackmailing grownups with tantrum threats, they end up throwing tantrums anyway, just for the sense of power.

Similarly, any insecure Trump voters who would seriously threaten another round of Trump as punishment for getting their white male feefees hurt would not ultimately be dissuaded or appeased by getting their white male feefees stroked instead. They’d still go ahead and vote for Trump again just to enjoy the thrill of doing something the liberals oppose.

Am I going to freak out on those manbabies’ behalf because some internet moralists hurt their white male feefees (excuse me, CONDESCENDINGLY DEMONIZED them :rolleyes: ) by telling them Black Lives Matter? Not hardly. The sensible white males aren’t going to throw a tantrum over a little internet moralizing, and the ones who would throw a tantrum over it aren’t worth trying to conciliate.

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If voting for Trump is a tantrum, and Trump dominated in the white male demographic, then I guess most white males aren’t sensible by this argument. Heck, if it was just up to white people the Democrats wouldn’t have won a national election in decades.