“Stop Whining”
“Stop it”
“Dylan!”
“Yeah, Good Morning, How are you?”
“First, I would like to get to know you”
“I wanna ask you a bunch of questions, and I want to have them answered immediatly”
“Who is your daddy, and what does he do?”
“I’m detective John Kimmble!”
“I’m a cop you idiot!”
Huh?
I just want to jump in here and let my opinion be known.
Stoid, I seriously suggest that you have a communication problem. This is not the first time that you have started an inflammatory topic and, upon having people jump all over you for it, start backpedaling that they’re misinterpreting you and that to you saying “so and so” really means “such and such”. For those interested, see the “Republicans are evil” thread in GD.
Here in this thread, your OP address everyone. But then you say it really wasn’t meant for everyone, it was meant for specific types of people. Not that you did anything to actually indicate those types of people.
Likewise, I’ve never heard the statement “blow me” used in anything but anger and/or dismissiveness. You can say that you didn’t mean it in such a way, but quite frankly, once you submit a post it’s no longer yours to interpret. It’s up to everyone else to read and decide what you’re trying to say.
Stoid, for all of your defensiveness and self-martyrization regarding how you’re so ‘misunderstood’, I really think the problem is at your end. You do not communicate well. Your words are poorly chosen and you give off impressions that you claim you did not wish to give. I seriously suggest you take more time to think about what you specifically want to say and how to say it before you spout off aagain.
As a wise man once said, “When many people have the same complaint about you, perhaps it’s time to check and see if they’re right.”
Stoid, in view of the fact that you have to keep “explaining” yourself here, people didn’t “get” your OP.
And why explain?
Just ignore and be happy!
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That reminds me of the old Russian saying:
“If ten people tell you you’re drunk, you’de better blow me.”
Lux Fiat, just for the record, I made it quite clear what I meant by quoting the Serenity Prayer, and it was absolutely not what you read into it.
As somebody above said, on this board we communicate with words. I thought I expressed myself fairly clearly; obviously, I was wrong in that. Either that, or your head is sufficiently deeply inserted in your nether orifices that you cannot read clear English.
On the assumption that the first alternative is correct, allow me to rephrase what I meant:
[li]There are some things in life that, much as we may not like them, are not subject to change by any effort we can make.[/li][li]There are other things which are subject to being changed by our efforts.[/li][li]Things in category #1 are not worth losing one’s cool about, because all we do is add our own ulcers and hypertension to the things already wrong with the world. (This is not to say that you cannot have a case of “just getting off my chest how much X annoys me, although there’s not a blamed thing I can do about it.”) If we can learn to accept them, so much the better.[/li][li]Things in category #2 deserve every amount of effort, including some good healthy bitching and moaning, we can invest in helping to make them change.[/li][li]Being able to tell which category something falls in is one major element of wisdom. Taking the appropriate action with regard to them is another.[/li]
Now, was that adequately clear for you? If so, consider applying your username to the situation. It was not, as I recall, Excrementum bovinum fiat.
STOID –
Christ on a crutch, can you not read? Allow me to parse this down for you into very small words. Please read it slowly.
I said I do not pretend NOT to be insulting people when I obviously AM. I have obviously insulted YOU. Unlike YOU attempting to pretend you did not insult me ("‘blow me’ is code in my own secret language"), I freely admit when I have insulted people – which is usually obvious anyway.
I said that IF I had not insulted someone, I would not sit still for them saying I have.
You are so fucking ironic I cannot stand it. It is YOU who OBVIOUSLY insults me and then attempts to say you did not. It is YOU who cannot decide what you mean. I know EXACTLY what I mean because, unlike you, I do not have my head stuffed so far up my ass I’m viewing the world out my nostrils.
I do not know you at all, except to the extent that I have formed an opinion about you based upon what you have posted here. I have NEVER said I know you; I have no desire to know you.
Please review the above. If I am manifestly NOT insulting you by any objective standard, it is neither my problem nor my responsibility if you choose to interpret my posts as insults. If my every word to you strikes you as an insult, I suggest you dial down your sensitivity meter and re-think how important you imagine yourself to be in my world – the answer to which is “not very.”
I do not promise to avoid discourse with you. I promise to attempt to maintain civil discourse with you if you can endeavor to do the same. However, this would require both that you cease to interpret everything I say as an insult to you – I really don’t care enough about you to work that hard – and that you refrain from directly insulting me. But if I see something posted I think is wrong or silly or obnoxious or whatever, I am not going to refrain from saying so just because it was posted by you.
I do not care if your friends think “bite me twice” is a way to say “I love you.” If you say something that is GENERALLY understood to be an insult, then you cannot act surprised to find that you have insulted someone – especially someone whom you do not know well and cannot guarantee has the same understanding as you. Some women call each other “bitch;” I wouldn’t take that from any one but my very dearest friends, and I wouldn’t be too happy to hear it from them either. So don’t presume to judge me by your own standards; the one thing you ought to know by now as that you and I do NOT have the same standards.
STOID says to PHIL:
Bullshit. You said you were addressing “you, and YOU, and you in the corner.” You said no matter what people’s problems might be, they ought to be grateful to be alive. You may disagree with this interpretation but it is pretty fucking obvious by this point that you were NOT “crystal clear” in your post.
Un-fucking-believable. You think we would ALL stop by to say you have posted idiocy not because we think it IS idiocy but because we’re all gunning for you? Sorry to break it to you, but you’re not that important – not to me anyway, and I seriously doubt to the others who have disagreed with you. You know, if people appear to disagree with what you say, it most often is because they TRULY disagree with it, not because they’re out to get you. But then it’s so much easier to say “they’re all out to get me” than it is to accept that we just disagree with you, isn’t it?
And you can put me firmly in the camp of people that think it’s pretty fucking low for you to allude to personal problems as a way of striking back at a person who you perceive to be attacking you – especially when those problems were not raised here. This is precisely why I don’t share my personal life on the Board – because I know some mean-spirited person such as yourself would use it against me. It may seem odd to you that I would even consider defending Phil – not that he needs defending – but I have no problem defending people with whom I disagree but whom I generally respect.
And I am done with this. I have made my opinion and my position very clear and doubt it could be clearer. I have no desire to kick you just for the sake of kicking you – your opinion to the contrary notwithstanding – even though you invite it by continuing to rationalize as inoffensive things that are obviously offensive. So feel free to respond and twist my words around as you did in your last post to me; I trust the other posters to decide for themselves what I mean. Have a nice day.
Stoid, I have idea what you attempted to accomplish by starting this thread, but you have managed to anger and disgust several people, including me. Apart from your weaseling on the point of your OP, you dredge up painful personal revelations posted on another board to score minor points???
I do not know you.
I do not wish to know you.
You have behaved in a contemptible fashion in this thread.
You owe Phil a fulsome, groveling apology for your vile actions.
This one time I woke up and I stepped out of my bed into a pile of shit that my dog left me. At that point I think I think I had a decent enough excuse not to laugh and smile. That shit was fresh, too. All oozing and warm. Yeah, I wasn’t ecstatic at that point. Shit between toes at 5 in the morning.
Try being woken up by a cat having a hairball on your bed.
Sorry, Poly, I should’ve been clearer about where that post was pointed. Here’s where my head was at: My rant in defense of ranting was directed at the OP. Yes, it was you who offered the idea that Stoid, in the midst of the abuse/condescension/superciliossitude (that is so a word), actually meant to say, “Don’t give yourself an ulcer, lad, it’s not worth it.” (Would you say that’s a fair characterization of what you were getting at?) She then implied that was certainly what she meant all along, by giving you a hug and proclaiming your wisdom (which is about the only thing she’s said in this thread with which I don’t disagree). 'Twas that implication that got my dander up. That was absolutely not what she said in the OP. She said, basically, “You shouldn’t bitch because there are people who have it worse.”
I think you were wrong in your assessment of what Stoid was getting at with your offer of the Serenity Prayer explanation. But that’s cool, that’s just a disagreement. What prompted my vitriol was when Stoid co-opted it, which I think was dishonest. It was her OP’s version of the “Serenity Prayer” against which I railed. I wasn’t clear in my post about my thought process, and have offended you by association. Sorry about that; my venom wasn’t for you, or your version of the prayer, which lacks abuse/condescension/supercilionitation. (For the record, I disagree with the principle behind the Serenity Prayer as it exists, as well, which also informed my post. I have no problem with the idea of picking my battles, but just because I can’t change something doesn’t mean that I have to accept it.)
I hope I was less clumsy in this post than it appears I was in the first few sentences of my previous one. (Excluding the “Veb is wise” part. That was dead on.)