Come now, be good little dopers and go over to the thread Ogre linked to…
… and hang your heads in shame and shuffle back home when you read about my sperm whale collectivly kicking the ass of all your salties/elephants/lions/bears!!!
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- Perhaps the proper question is not being asked: I understand that wolverines steal food from bears, and spotted hyenas steal food from lions. - MC
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The bear would win.
Think about the modes of attack: the lion, like most big cats, goes for the jugular. This is effective against it’s prey because, well, they haven’t any arms or paws with which to swipe at them. If the lion managed to get in under the grizz’s defense and latch on to it’s throat, it could still rip the hapless lion to shreds with it’s big’ol griz’ly claws.
Mustafa tar-tar.
As a Leo, I’m obligated to point out that the lion is the undisputed king of the zodiac.
Are we talking about a male lion here? Cause we all know that the males only fight each other, it’s the females that have all the hunting and stalking skills.
Given the element of surprise, I’d have to think the proud lion could take down the grumpy bear. In a straight on, put-em-in-a-pit-like-dogs fight, I’d have to go with the bear.
While bears have the advantage of size and strength, they generally spend their days eating berries and honey and grubs and such. The extent of their experience in actually killing are itty bitty creatures that don’t escape into their burrows quickly enough, or smacking a salmon out of the river.
Lions on the other hand live day to day having to chase down and kill prey that is roughly their own size or larger. Granted their prey isn’t exactly aggressive or built for killing, but I’d take a zebra over a salmon in a fight anyday.
Bears also do not have very many enemies. There aren’t many creatures in a bears habitat that would willingly place itself in a bears way. Lions though have to constantly fend off hyenas and cheetahs and jackals and who knows what else, just to keep their kills and young.
Lions have it in experience.
IMHO the victor would be the Lion. I have seen them stand on their hind legs before while attacking other creatures and I imagine that the lion might do the same here, thus defeating the bear.
WAG YMMV
Well, that leads to another point: the bear has a bit more physical protection- it’s hair. It can take the same swipe that would lay the lion wide open and, with a thick enough coat, perhaps walk away unscathed. IMO again.
Originally posted by Philosophocles
What about a pack of 15 full grown wolves against a full grown grizzly?
Originally posted by Crunchy Frog
[Monty Python reference]
What if the grizzly’s got a pointed stick?
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Well, a pack of 15 full grown East African wolves, maybe,
but not European wolves.
I’d have to go with the lion. Unshakable gut feeling. Although after last night’s Lion-spanking I’m open to
debate.
I’d have to say that its not contest for the Grizzly. Let’s assume that the animal’s weapons are fairly similar. Probably not the case, but there’s a compelling arguement for both I think. The other factor would be defensive ability. The Bear definately wins here. Its got a thick, blubbery coat and dense fur. The lions claws would likely do little damage to the bear through that coat. The lion however has virtually no defensive “armor”. A lion swipe might draw blood on the bear, a bears swipe would disembowel the lion. Also consider that the Bear has a much greater ability to assume a defensive posture. The bear would stand on its hind legs for a longer period of time, placing its neck and head out of reach for the lion. When the lion attacked he’d be attacking right into the clutches of the bear. Either way, the lion is dead meat.
The only way we might be discussing a fight worth betting on is if its a smaller species of bear.
A coyote can outwit them both with one lobe tied behind its back.
My god, no one’s made the obvious joke yet… Here I go…
[superfan]
Daaaaaaaaa bear!
Da bear
Da bear
Da bear
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OK-- how about the Grizzly bear versus a man with a chain saw? Mano a mano? Any of you have the guts?
I hope it doesn’t happen; cruelty to animals and such. but…Bear.
They have staying power. They have a lot of padding and extra size and strength.
Oh, wait, I just remembered something:
Amazingly enough, a wiley sled dog can fight off a polar bear all by himself.
How? He bites the achilles tendon, holds on, then wriggles left or right to avoid the blows. The bear has trouble reaching back there, so the dog sees every paw swipe coming. Another victory of speed over strength. I swear I’m not making this up. Can anybody get me a site?
Don’t know about a lion v bear, but according to ABC News a python beats a pit bull.