Since I’m a mod, and I got that as a “report this post” before I moved the thread to Great Debates, I"m afraid that I didn’t think Nemo meant it in a personal way but rather as a way of comparing the style of argument. I could be wrong, but just my opinion. While maybe not in the best of taste, he didn’t call you a holocaust denier.
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*I don’t believe holocaust deniers deny only the intent of Nazi leadership to liquidate the Jewish population, but rather the actual fact of the liquidation (and I hope these terms are not offensive). The person to whom **Little Nemo ** is replying is only denying Walmart’s intent.
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Semi-hijack: Some deniers claim that, while some Jews did die in work camps, it was a natural result of wartime conditions, improper sanitation, and lack of adequate medical treatment, and anyway, it was only a few thousand, not millions and millions. The goal of this particular type of denialist is minimization, not negation, that the Holocaust was an “unfortunate” event that’s been blown vastly out of proportion, and the Germans didn’t mean for it to happen anyway.
Well if he is comparing rhetorical motifs it is a horribly poor and/or strained Comparison.
I appreciate the support, and yes, I do recognize that I might have been a bit touchy regarding Little Nemo’s use of the term. Still: holocaust deniers are known for being weasels and manipulative in debate, and use fallacies of debate in service of great evil. To be told that my argument is equivalent to that in form - how is that not insulting?
If I were to say to you, dear reader, that your argument against me was like something Jack Thompson/Pat Robertson/Dick Cheney would say, wouldn’t that rile your blood even if there was a valid analogy underneath?
[QUOTE=samclem]
Since I’m a mod, and I got that as a “report this post” before I moved the thread to Great Debates, I"m afraid that I didn’t think Nemo meant it in a personal way but rather as a way of comparing the style of argument. I could be wrong, but just my opinion. While maybe not in the best of taste, he didn’t call you a holocaust denier.
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I can read it both ways, but I am leaning your way. I still think **Little Nemo ** has to come here and tell John that it wasn’t meant as a personal attack. It’s the right thing to do.
[QUOTE=DrDeth]
I can read it both ways, but I am leaning your way. I still think **Little Nemo ** has to come here and tell John that it wasn’t meant as a personal attack. It’s the right thing to do.
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:rolleyes:
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Oddly enough, Hitler only needed the electricity shut off when he shouted “Kill all the Juice”.
I’m very, very sorry for that
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Apparently it did not work, as the Juice is still running around out there looking for those killers.
[QUOTE=Excalibre]
:rolleyes:
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Well, dude- some read it as a personal attack, some don’t. And, you have reasonable dudes on both sides. The only dude that really knows is **Little Nemo, ** which is why I think his own explanation is in order, rather than other peoples guesses as to what **Little Nemo ** really meant.
[QUOTE=Excalibre]
:rolleyes:
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Y’know, that uncommented rolleyes seems like the kind of argument that child-rapists use. They go around kidnapping 5 year olds, sodomizing them, dumping the dead bodies in a ravine, all while rolling their eyes.
[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Y’know, that uncommented rolleyes seems like the kind of argument that child-rapists use. They go around kidnapping 5 year olds, sodomizing them, dumping the dead bodies in a ravine, all while rolling their eyes.
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Hitler used to roll his eyes all the time. Stalin never did, but frequently rolled a killer doob. Little known fact: when he said, “Get me the H-Bomb,” he was talking about a 2" hashrock in his sock drawer.
[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Y’know, that uncommented rolleyes seems like the kind of argument that child-rapists use. They go around kidnapping 5 year olds, sodomizing them, dumping the dead bodies in a ravine, all while rolling their eyes.
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:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Lemur866]
Y’know, that uncommented rolleyes seems like the kind of argument that child-rapists use. They go around kidnapping 5 year olds, sodomizing them, dumping the dead bodies in a ravine, all while rolling their eyes.
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Oh, yeah? You know who likes making irrelevant comparisons to the imagined actions of evildoers? Pol Pot, that’s who!
Hitler was taken.
You guys are pissing all over my thread like the drunk equivalent of Josef Stalin.
[QUOTE=John Corrado]
I appreciate the support, and yes, I do recognize that I might have been a bit touchy regarding Little Nemo’s use of the term. Still: holocaust deniers are known for being weasels and manipulative in debate, and use fallacies of debate in service of great evil. To be told that my argument is equivalent to that in form - how is that not insulting?
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I agree. I don’t, however, think Nemo was eqating you with NeoNazis-- at least that not how I read it. It is odd, however, how WalMart threads generate such venom on this board. You’d think they were Halliburton or something. 
[QUOTE=John Corrado]
You guys are pissing all over my thread like the drunk equivalent of Josef Stalin.
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And we don’t have a Pot to piss in.
At least we haven’t got the Trotskys.
[QUOTE=jjimm]
And we don’t have a Pot to piss in.
At least we haven’t got the Trotskys.
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I am going to reach through the Internet and strangle you for that.
Amin to that, Corrado.
Papa Doc would have loved this thread.
[QUOTE=John Corrado]
I am going to reach through the Internet and strangle you for that.
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Sorry. I’ll be a man and take it on the Ho Chi Minh.
I just wanted to have a Franco discussion of what I felt was insulting, and this is what I get. But Somoza people on the board have to screw things up with puns, and they can’t leave well enough Peron.