Check the link.
http://www.local6.com/news/4480144/detail.html
another
http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2731883
an editorial
http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_2737237
Mr. Doug Bjerregaard, I cannot fathom why you didn’t imagine this would explode in your face.
He’s an aged substitute teacher. No doubt he is bat-shit insane.
Vivisection used to be a regular part of the curriculum. In high school back in the 70’s, we pithed and vivsected frogs. In Bio II, there was a similar lab with a turtle. Given that this took place a veterinarian’s office, I’ll presume that the animal was properly anesthetized; even so, to do such a lab with high school students today was asking_no, make that begging_for a media shitstorm.
So the principal was properly informed and stood behind it. Permission slips letting parents know what was going on were sent out and sent back in signed. This all seems on the up and up. Where is the problem? I don’t understand.
Can I just say I wish I had a teacher that cool, when I was back in High School?
I would be with Amp on this one, except there weren’t any actual signed permission forms. As the second article states:
A little less than up and up, if you ask me. That said, I think those eight parents should have spoken up beforehand, rather than now.
Hell, I’m a PeTA member and I don’t see a problem with this. The dog was going to be euthanized regardless of the vivisection; and, as long as the animal was sedated and felt absolutely no pain, then why not let the kids learn something from it?
I don’t really see the problem either. The dog couldn’t feel it. He was going to be euthanized anyway. This took place in a vet’s office, so there’s no worry about whether or not things were done right.
And these kids were in an Advanced Human Anatomy course. How else are they going to learn - not memorize names of - things if not through dissection?
Where are all the people crying about the cat that I spent half a semester dissecting earlier this year?
Sedation does not in any way address pain perception. I sometimes will suture a laceration with a combination of sedation and local anesthesia. Dissection under sedation? The animal would be writhing and screaming. WAG the dog was given an anesthetic agent and the teacher is mis-speaking.
When I was in veterinary school, we did non-survival surgeries on research beagles. They were purpose bred animals purchased from a USDA source. When a classmate investigated the possibility of getting dogs from the local shelter that were going to be euthanised anyway, the shelter refused (PR reasons).
You have way more faith in an individual based only on his/her occupation than I do. I speak from experience. There are bad people who are doctors, janitors, priests, etc.
I don’t see a problem with this.
I see no problem here, either. The second article said all the kids were fine with it. If it was done on a frog no one would have had any issues. I wish people would get away from “cute and fuzzy = protected.”
But the law does treat mammals differently from other animals in regards to what is legal. I think from an animal welfare point of view, what was done may have been illegal. If a lab uses dogs or cats they have very specific legal issues and have forms to file. I doubt that was done here.
While I have no problem with dissection of a dog/cat/human cadaver in an educational setting, I do have a problem with a teacher not following the law.
I do not have the time to go through the aplicable USDA laws regarding animal welfare, however I will offer this webpage: http://www.nal.usda.gov/awic/legislat/usdaleg1.htm
I doubt from what I have read about the teaching exercise that it was “kosher”. I cannot condone a teacher ignoring the law.
Have you ever met one who isn’t? 
The biggest problem I have with it is I know it would’ve been horrible for me to go through as a high school student. I almost threw up when I had to hold a jar that had a preserved dog’s heart infected with heartworms in it on a Girl Scout trip to the local vet’s.
I had nightmares of dropping that jar for weeks.
I just read the first story. Did the others mention if the students could opt out or the experience with no penalties?
I read a different version, which I can’t find now. It said that the class went to a Vet’s office where the procedure was being done. The teacher didn’t do any cutting, the Vet did it. The kids were told in advance and given the choice to opt out.
I’ll continue to look for it.
I don’t see any problem here.
“Hi, I’m Troy McClure, you may remember me from educational films like A Visit to the Slaughterhouse …”
Somehow this seems very Simpsons-like.
(What kind of Sub makes such an elaborate lesson preparation?)
The kind that really care about the children man. The children.
Who’s a vivisected doggie? You are. You’re a vivsected doggie! Yes hims is. Hims is such a cute widdew vivisected doggie.