Have you ever made a similar admission of error? Or have you been infallible?
I read post #1479 as an admission that his previous understanding of the subject was incorrect.
Several times I’ve engaged you in discussion, hoping that you’d put aside your weird but apparently intense negative personal feelings about me. And several other times (like the post immediately preceding yours above), IIRC.
I don’t have negative feelings towards you.
There are posters that i have negative feelings towards but you aren’t one of them.
I just don’t recall you admitting error a whole lot.
Black employee reports racial discrimination to his boss. It does not go well.
Yes, that’s right - he reported racial abuse to his employer, who then conspired with the local police chief to drum up false charges and arrest the black employee. Fortunately the employee has been released and both the police department and the employer have to pay him a combined million or so in damages. After public outcry the police chief is also now under state investigation.
I just hope he doesn’t want to deposit those checks at this bank…
:smack::smack::smack:
Anybody who tries to claim that racism is past in America needs to read this and weep.
As long as white American keep sticking their heads in the sand trying not to see incidents like this, hell yeah we have a racism problem and they’re part of it.
Well, it’s certainly much worse than just sticking their/our heads in the sand, for I assume (although the story did not say so) that the people passing by who challenged them and reported them for criminal activity were white, and apparently assumed that black people could not possibly own a nice house in a nice neighborhood. I’m sure if they had their way, that would be true. In any case, I sure hope there is some way that couple can be encompassed in this lawsuit, or be the stars of their own. Maybe slander, for calling them criminals and causing them harm?
More on the lawsuits from the Sacramento Bee:
"Since the incident, one lawsuit states, sheriff’s and police employees “have engaged in a coordinated intimidation campaign, involving unmarked cars repeatedly circling Carlos’ home, spotlights shining brightly into Carlos’ home at night, and frequent flat tires to Carlos’ vehicle.”
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article241338136.html#storylink=cpy
Either Rancho Cordova officers are the most out-of-control police unit in the U.S., or there’s more to this story than what is stated in the lawsuits.
Yes, this. ^
It would fucking serve them fucking right.
Do you really doubt that there are cops who would behave like that? What “more to the story” are you implying? That the homeowner somehow deserves this alleged treatment?
Maybe it’s all true as alleged, maybe part of it is true and the rest embellished, or maybe most or even all of it is bullshit.
If we accepted anything stated in a civil court filing as gospel, we’d wind up believing all sorts of bizarre claims. I’ll await the lawsuit disposition (though if the defendants settle without a final decision, we may never know what actually happened).
Fair points, but saying there’s more to the story doesn’t sound the same to me as “maybe some or all of the charges in the suit aren’t true.” Maybe that’s just me.
A black man was murdered while jogging, on video. The killer’s name is known and is in the article. It took public outrage for the death to be investigated, but AFAICT there still has been no arrests.
The killers were two white men who say they stopped the black man because they thought he looked like a criminal suspect. And then they shot him.
The above incident happened in February, and still no charges have been filed.
If anyone wonders why maybe black people sometimes don’t feel like full citizens and equal members of our society, maybe this incident will help you understand.
Emphasis mine.
Has anyone in this thread actually said that? Because it seems axiomatic.
Don’t know about this thread, but lots of people have said that, or the equivalent, to me in real life.
They want to submit it to the grand jury but currently grand juries are not allowed to sit due to corona virus.
I don’t know why they need to take it to a grand jury. Maybe it’s a tactic to delay so long that it gets forgotten again. Maybe the DA isn’t sure there’s a good case, or maybe the DA just doesn’t want to take personal responsibility for prosecuting a case like this because of likely political backlash.
None of that changes the validity of your conclusion, of course. And if it is axiomatic, sometimes even axioms need to be stated out loud.
I’m no expert, but isn’t a Grand Jury a formality whenever anyone pleads not guilty?
Agreed, Andy.
It’s yet another case in which the presumptions of innocence and guilt are flipped. If you’re a black man who kills a white man in self-defense, the law is more likely to make the black man prove he had justification to use deadly force to defend himself.
If it’s three armed white men in pursuit of a black jogger, all they need to say is “I was afraid.” On some level, the law assumes that black men are inherently more dangerous. We see time and time again that we cannot untangle the racist origins of America’s founding as a nation-state from the legal system that exists today.
No,afaik. A grand jury indictment replaces a preliminary hearing to determine if there is enough evidence to continue on to a trial.