Living while black in America

Read the article linked by @asahi in which it states that the driver showed up immediately after the incident. That should change all of your assumptions.

To be fair, that account was provided by Mr. Harrold only, at least so far. He has been, justifiably, pretty upset, and may not be the best witness of facts such as this. That is, he might have been mistaken or mis-informed, we don’t have any corroboration so far. Please be clear I am not suggesting anything negative about Mr. Harrold, only that a critical fact like this should have some 2nd point of validation.

Harrold wrote on Instagram, “Her phone was magically returned by an Uber driver a few minutes after this incident.

My point was to show @Little_Nemo how silly his assumptions were. He wrote his own a story based on nothing but his own bad assumptions and created a scenario around it. The facts make that scenario absurd. Had the woman lost the phone days before then there would be no reason to ask people in the lobby about it.

It may or or may not be true that the phone was delivered “minutes” afterwards but it would make less sense for it to be delivered many days later.

I based what I wrote on what the early media articles said.

Is it just me or does “iphone rage girl” have something embarrassing on her iphone that she didn’t want the world to see? Like maybe she did porn shoots or something? Or maybe she’s a member of some cult?

FYI, the attorney for the woman who falsely accused the fourteen-year-old of stealing her phone says she was just young, scared and in a strange city and that it totally wasn’t a racial thing. NBC News has an article here in which she is named.

So scared she scored a take-down – instead of running away like any “scared” person would typically do.

Because it needs to be said:

Armed white guys can literally take over the federal government and walk around the House of Representatives untouched. Black guy who reaches for a cell phone? Get shot 14 times.

To be fair a white woman was shot… once.

Miya Ponsetto, the woman who falsely accused a fourteen-year-old boy of stealing her cell phone, was arrested in California on a fugitive warrant.

Not just arrested, but forcibly arrested.

Officers forcibly removed Ponsetto from the vehicle, saying she resisted arrest, refused to get out of the car, and tried to slam a car door on one of the deputies, the spokesperson said.

So whatever happens in New York, she is also going to face charges in California, like resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer. Maybe she can run out the clock on the statute of limitations for those charges by serving some time in a New York prison.

Of course, the irony is that if she had been black and done any of those actions, she would likely now be dead.

Is her own attorney a good enough source? From the NBC article linked above

It’s a stupid assumption

I’m getting the impression that she’s not right in the head. The NBC News article mentioned an earlier incident of battery in Beverly Hills.

I disagree. I think that gathering information before forming an opinion is the opposite of stupidity.

It generally doesn’t work like that. California usually wouldn’t wait until she completes whatever sentence she receives in New York before filing their charges. They’ll file the charges now, which turns off the statute of limitations clock, and then request that New York turns her over to California custody when she completes her sentence.

If Ponsetto was serving a long sentence in New York and California didn’t want to wait until she completed it before holding her trial, she could be temporarily transferred to California to have her trial and be sentenced there and then transferred back to New York to complete her New York sentence. At the end of her New York sentence, she would then be transferred back to California to complete the sentence she had waiting for her there.

That’s good to know (and thanks).

The last sentence in the paragraph you quoted was intended more as cheeky irony than a realistic reflection of how things actually work. But it’s good to get the actual mechanism clear.

I have to acknowledge that what I described is the way the process can work. But the reality can often be different.

Things like transporting prisoners, holding trials, and sentencing people to prison all cost a state money. And sometimes a state will decide it has other higher priority uses for its finite budget.

So California might decide something like “She’s already serving time in New York? Good enough.” While New York might be saying at the same time “You want to put her in prison in California? That takes her off our prison budget. She’s all yours.” You will see cases where multiple states might all be trying to convince the other states to take custody (and the expense) of a single criminal.

As a 49 year old black male, I was hopeful once. I was born into a upper middle class family and have maintained that status through my life. I never really thought anyone was holding me down, always thought it was up to me to do my thing. I never really had dealings with the racisim on that level. You can see in my posts I was against BLM as an organization but agreed with the message that the police are too brutal. I literally said its not open season on black people.

I was wrong. The confederate flag was flown in the US capital, and the the police did nothing. I don’t think we can pretend that it is about law and order anymore, which I used to actually believe. Law enforcement is actually on the other side. BLM was right.

I feel ashamed that I was so naïve

That was your final straw? Not all those dead Black people?
“Naïve” is the least of your problems.