Liz Truss tries to lead the UK {and resigns as of 2022-10-20}

It reminds me of a bit by American stand-up comedian Larry Miller. I can’t find a video of it, but, paraphrasing:

“I never understood people who get divorced, and then get married to each other again. It’s like taking a carton of milk out of the fridge, and sniffing it: ‘Whoa, it’s gone bad! I think I’ll put it back in the fridge, and maybe it’ll be better in a couple of weeks.’”

I don’t understand why Truss was chosen in the first place. Why would her party choose her as leader and then want to be rid of her in four scaramuccis?

What is extra brutal is the person asking that question is a died in the wool conservative, who then went off and set up GB News, a mouthpiece of the maddest of the tories (who then left because he seemed unaware there were tories madder than him). So that should have been someone sympathetic to her.

Everyone else who was a better leader was either too busy, too purged by Boris or too non white.

I’m guessing it’s because the party members are mostly idiots with no knowledge whatsoever of financial matters, and chose her because she had nice hair or something.

To add to @AK84’s answer, the Tories have been in power so long they have just completely lost any sense of real politics. It’s all inside baseball, people get promoted or recognised because they’re good at playing the game rather than understanding the electorate or how their policies affect actual people. Truss told a fun story about bonfire of red tape and radical growth policies and the fact that she’s a terrible communicator and under-informed ideologue didn’t outweigh the fact that she flattered their prejudices. These people have been on “Fuck About” mode for so long they forgot that “Find Out” is an option.

(One element of that is that Boris cheerfully fired anybody with talent or nous in favour of incompetents who couldn’t pose a threat to him, and this was generally seen by Tory MPs as smart practice.)

The “too purged” thing mentioned by AK84 is key. “Get Brexit Done” became a litmus test for loyalty, and any Conservative who expressed reservations about the extreme difficulty involved in wrapping it up without significant economic and/or political damage was either thrown overboard or voluntarily exited due to backlash. The result is that there’s literally nobody left with legitimate leadership potential. All that remain (heh) are cranks and grifters.

Why is this the first time ever I’m encountering this word? Before today, I only knew it as the little-used first person plural pronoun in French.

Apparently it even has an American English pronunciation, but I’ve never heard anyone use it with any pronunciation.

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/nous

She wasn’t chosen by the party. It was the same thing which destroyed labour for four years, an electorate which elects someone the rest of the party doesn’t like. Corbyn was a joke candidate shouting out nonsense at the back to be ignored for years, but the members wanted someone who was more to the left.

This sidelined anyone likeable or sensible from the party, causing a civil war between those who wanted to be elected, and those who wanted to be seen to have principles (but electability was unimportant).

She wasn’t first choice. Or even second choice. She’d managed to put together third choice, and beg the supporters of the spare ones to get the place. She was a known disliked candidate. Then tried doubly hard with the fantasy economics to get the win (when she was always going to win).

Competence has long since disappeared from the party, and that was happening during May’s time, as reality denial took over. Truss is one of the end products, you can speak this nonsense to the party members, but you have to have enough of a brain not to actually do this nonsense you’re speaking. Even Johnson knew that. The markets don’t respond well to people actually implementing the mad crap, and if they actually do, what other sort of crazy shit might they do next, if that was the starting point.

The lettuce won. It’s a fair crop.

Well, at least Liz managed to serve under 2 monarchs, nobody’s done that since Winston Churchill. :rofl:

There is a certain irony that the longest-serving monarch appointed the shortest-serving PM.

Pretty much guaranteeing her place in pub trivia forever.

Did the lettuce vote Leaf or Romaine?

Leaf, I believe.
Or was it "I be-leave?!

:clap:

I’m not sure what method they’re using for the vote but it sounds (perhaps?) similar to Trump’s win in the 2016 primaries? He didn’t need to be the most popular, he just needed all the better candidates to split the sane vote in order to have the largest voting block among the bunch.

I’d recommend that, before they try voting for another PM, they revise how they’re voting.

I believe the Con party has decided to forget letting the hoi-polloi party members vote this time, and instead will choose their next leader within a week, just based on the MP’s choice. I think Larry the Cat has a real chance here.

Edit: Just reading that prospective candidates will need at least 100 MP’s nominating them. If there is only one candidate with 100 MP nominations then that person will be the new PM. If there are two (or three), then it will go to a full party vote.

Her MPs didn’t choose her. She squeaked in as the second “possible” to put to the party members in the country - they preferred her magical thinking to Sunak’s. Plus he had image problems over his visibly expensive tastes and his wife’s tax status. Whether or not the obvious physical difference between him and Truss affected their (skewing elderly, suburban) judgement, I wouldn’t presume to say. The ructions over the last couple of weeks are the party’s MPs giving up on their grudging acceptance of the members’ choice.

So I think this is the timeline:

MP’s nominate someone for leader. 100 nominations are the minimum required. This process will be completed on Monday, Oct 24. If there is only one person with the minimum 100 MP nominations, that’s it.

If there are more than one with 100 MP nominations, then it goes to a full party vote, with a single “broadcast event” to feature the two (or three) candidates. Full party vote would be completed on Friday, October 28.

I’m sure the speedy nature of this exercise will lead to the best possible candidate being chosen. /s