Long delayed, way overdue apology

I remembered the thread. Prior to it I had taken ExTank seriously. This helps.

Water under the bridge Tank.

and then spent the rest of the post explaining about what he meant: namely, that the cars are the ones at fault for driving like idiots around motorcycles. he allowed for stupid motorcyclists, yes, but the thrust of his post was aimed at people who don’t seem to grasp that it’s particularly stupid to behave dangerously around them, due to the differences in consequences

Well… I never said that anyways.

technically, the pronoun “you” in your post in direct response to a motorcyclist could do just that, especially since it wasn’t a generic response to the OP (I never said you said anything to exTank), but a specific quote of a different response in the thread.

Well that’s just wrong. After the part I cited, the rest of his post was, and I quote:

“What’s wrong with fantasizing about equalling the odds with car drivers, bullet-to-the-head-wise? It was just a fantasy, wasn’t it?”

If you see something in those two sentences that indicates cars are at fault and motorcyclists are not, I have no idea where you’re getting it.

Well it’s also particularly stupid for motorcyclists to behave dangerously. And doubly so, because if they engage in battle, they’re the ones who are going to lose. Same goes for small car vs. semi. If I’m driving a car, I’m not going to take a truck on, because I’m going to lose that contest. It’s just common sense. Even if I think I’m right, being right doesn’t help me if I’m dead.

I didn’t claim that you said it.

This is just semantic nitpicking. “You shouldn’t do X” is an extremely common construction in English that means the same thing as “ONE shouldn’t do X”. With all due respect, I don’t need you to tell me the meaning of my own sentence.

Besides which, even if he was saying that car drivers are always at fault and motorcyclists are never at fault, that would be a completely bullshit thing to say. You weren’t saying that, were you, levdrakon?

You are such a transparent troll. Quit trying to stir shit up, jackass.

Bwuh? You’ve never fantasized about doing violence to some smarmy, offensive twat in a situation in which you were essentially helpless? Right…

I’ve run into some people that I fantasized about punching, but I can’t recall fantasizing about murdering anyone.

P.S. One of them was the motorcycle rider who split lanes, got in front of me, and then slowed down, and then when I passed him, did the same thing again.

Well, then you may safely wrap the mantle of “Best Person in the Whole World” around your shoulders, because I can pretty much guarantee that every other human being on the face of the planet has had such fantasies. They’re normal.

Woo hoo!! Best person in the world! :smiley:

You forgot to capitalize. It’s Important That You Capitalize. Don’t make me kill you.

Too much caffeine today, Ogre?

Maybe I should have made the fantasy about having my bike equipped with rocket launchers so it would seem ridiculous enough for you to get that it’s only a fantasy.

Anyway, I gotta hit the road - I’m due in Colorado and I’m not sure if I’ll have internet along the way. But I do have my laptop with me, so I’m not cutting and running, lb.

That’s like asking a pig not to roll around in muck. It’s VCO3 metier.

ExTank, I figured it just to be blowing off steam, and you had every right to be angry at the driver. You also had at least some justification to be upset with the police officer for not even offering her an admonition regarding her lack of attentiveness and awareness of motorcyclists (if he didn’t, which your post implied), though I don’t think he could have issued a citation that would have held up. My only objection was to the clearly heated and spurious justifation for self-defense in response to a similar future incident. And I’m glad to see both that it was a singular incident of heated bombast, and that you’re big enough to apologize for it. Apology accepted. (Plus, I got to exercise my vocabulary with some novel insults, so I got something out of it.)

Most car drivers have absolutely no clue as to what it’s like to handle a bike, and many fail to spare the attention they should when directing 400,000 odd foot-lbs of energy, which makes motorcyclists into instant second hand citizens. It’s not fair, but it’s reality. Be careful out there.

Stranger

FWIW, I second this sentiment. ExTank, your original thread coincided with my beginning to lurk here on the dope, and as a result I remembered it pretty clearly. In fact, I knew exactly what you were linking to before I clicked on it. And, as I result, any time I saw you posting on any topic, in the back of my mind, I definitely thought, “that’s that crazy fucker who wants to shoot at people in traffic.” Now, I’ll still remember who you are, but I’ll be able to take you seriously.

Hmm. For some reason I missed that thread. Not sure what my reaction to that thread would have been had I read it at that time, but your present post confirms my long-held opinion that you are one of my favorite posters.
Don’t be such a stranger.

Thanks, folks, for the kind words.

When did I say it wasn’t a fantasy? :confused: