So say we all.
Several things:
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[li]Other than telling people that she has this “gift”, how does anyone know that it truly exists? - I can repair machines; that’s my “gift.”. People can see me do it. You can’t “see” Mrs. Caputo talking with dead. How can her claims be tested?[/li][li]No one has ever proven that life exists after the physical death of the body - Since that cannot be proven, how,exactly, can Mrs. Caputo “talk” with those persons?[/li][li]Why does her “gift” resemble the cold reading tricks used by mentalists? - Are they also “psychic” and refusing to acknowledge it? [/li][li]Please provide proof that James Randi’s million dollar was a “fake.”[/li][/ol]
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Several things:
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[li]Other than telling people that she has this “gift”, how does anyone know that it truly exists? - I can repair machines; that’s my “gift.”. People can see me do it. You can’t “see” Mrs. Caputo talking with dead. How can her claims be tested?[/li][/quote]
You can repair things, does that help me, can I prove it? Not unless our paths cross, no matter how many certifications you can get, it does me no good and I have no actual proof nor does that help me one hill of beans.
If you really want to know the answer is ‘does it work for you? - personally’, (where is that roll eyes :rolleyes: No that does not do - being back the old rolleyes), but you get the point. It is not about testing but can it help you personally.
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[li]No one has ever proven that life exists after the physical death of the body - Since that cannot be proven, how,exactly, can Mrs. Caputo “talk” with those persons?[/li][/QUOTE]
I can do that, though I chose not to, dead is below us, I can talk to those who have, for lack of a better word ‘transcended’ or achieved eternal life, those are the ones to talk to. I expressed this in the original thread, before it was resurrected as a zombie. Your standard, of if it can be proven (using standards to your satisfaction), means nothing to me - and I will not accept your standards,. I know it’s true but also because I know the standard you use is fundamentally flawed as it is not based on Love.
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[li]Why does her “gift” resemble the cold reading tricks used by mentalists? - Are they also “psychic” and refusing to acknowledge it? [/li][/QUOTE]
You see what you want, define and live your own reality, I am not thus bound by your standards.
Please provide proof that J R million dollar challenge based in Love, for if you can not their is no need to go any further as it is meaningless, and in my non-veterinarian opinion bullshit. It means nothing, it is equivalent but less then chasing the pot of gold at the end of a rainbow.
Nice! 
(It took 14 months to sink in, but now I find it hysterical.)
No, I don’t know her.
This is not an answer…it’s a dodge. Please provide an answer for the question that I asked.
Then prove it.
It’s a simple enough request. Either you can do it or you cannot.
There is no middle ground.
If you won’t…then the reason has to be presumed that you can’t.
It’s not a matter of “seeing what I want.” If someone throws out questions until they “hit”, that’s called “cold reading.” It’s a mentalist trick that has existed for hundreds ( if not thousands) of years and it’s well-documented. It’s not my perception; it’s historical fact.
Again, prove that what she is doing is NOT cold reading.
Here’s Randi’s challenge: The Million Dollar Challenge - JREF
Which part is “bullshit?”
That there is no million?
Please prove that.
That he wouldn’t pay?
Please prove that.
That it does meet the basics of scientific testing?
Please prove that.
You challenged my posting; I didn’t request your response. You now are failing to prove that what you claim is anything than your belief even when I am giving the opportunity to do so.
Teresa Caputo is almost certainly a fraud. Since she will not allow her abilities" to be tested, it’s safe to presume that she doesn’t have said abilities and that she is simply deceiving desperate and gullible people seeking relief from painful emotional losses.
That makes her claims “bullshit” since we are bandying that term around.
Do you actually know anything about the Million Dollar Challenge and how the tests are set up, or are you just mouthing insults and inaccuracies you heard from somebody else who doesn’t know what she’s talking about? Read for yourself before spouting more crap. And while you’re at it, learn more about the history you are claiming is true. Yer in the big leagues now, kid, and we expect more intellectual rigor than Facebook does. Even here in IMHO. 
And remember that falling short of knowing it all still beats knowing little or nothing.
It’s why I don’t own a Ouija board. You think, “They’re dead, and I’m finally shut of them,” but NO! Some dame from Long Island contacts them and it’s like they never died.
It’s not a dodge, I question your method of proof, what do you mean by testing? You have not defined it, so I will not answer it. I OTOH have defined it, does it help you personally regardless of any certifications, that is what matters in the life of a person. You have to decide on how you want to live your life, do you want people who can actually help you (and you help them), or people who have certifications. To me this is your choice.
First very flawed logic, unwilling does not equal unable. I would suggest going back to infant 101, but anyway, my point that anything that is worth anything is based on Love. If I met you and you were suffering from a hang nail and relayed it to me, your suffering how the elementary children teased of you in gym and I felt for you, you relayed how you had it from infancy and it has caused you much distress, and I felt it, I could cure it instantly (OK only sometimes as I am still learning and it’s just not only me, but anyway…) and you would go on your merry life without that discomfort. But that is based on Love, Love can not be faked even if you try really really hard. So your method does not include Love, the essential element.
Again you see what you want to see, and yes you will find people doing it for other reasons other then love and get less then stellar results. But until you understand Love you will not seek it nor find it, so yes you will get those results.
I know what is possible, which is what she has been cited as claiming to do, I don’t know her. I don’t really chose to look into talking to the dead, so I would have little reason to look into her.
You must first prove that receiving a million dollars is a desirable goal, because if there is no incentive there is no reason to pursue it and that is my claim, for those who know their gifting the million is not a incentive, so his claim is offering nothing of value.
AFAIK and as far as I chose to look at it Randi’s challenge is not based on Love. I am satisfied with that unless evidence is brought to my attention to the contrary. So it is meaningless by that standard to me, YMMV.
But I do think there is a larger picture here, as other people who know their giftings are based on Love may have likewise realized this and realized, there is no point, for even if you win you lose.
Again you are making the false assumption that unwilling = unable.
First, your whole perception is reality schtick is something I haven’t heard since I was a teenager. You can believe all you want that talking to dead people is a possibility, that doesn’t make it true simply because YOUR standards have been met.
2nd, extraordinary claims require proof. If I told someone “I can jump 100 feet into the air” and they took me at my word, that would make them a fool.
This goes both ways, and he was unable to give me a standard of acceptable proof.
Perhaps. Unless you have a basis to know it is possible.
Going back to the Rand’s challenge and why Randi’s challenge can not be met:
- The power comes from following the path of Love. If the child of Love (the person with such power) is tempted off the path of Love onto the path of money the connection to the power granted by Love is lost and the power is gone. The power is dependent on the path, Love is that path as a living guiding entity sometimes called God.
Going further in that:
If you will, I will try to explain why I feel that he is as big a fraud as those who do cold readings without divine insight, but by ‘carnival style parlor tricks’. Actually I see them as both sides of the same coin.
The real system is based on Love, and Love is God (the terms are identical). The power is from God and is God. The person who is able to do these things is allowing God to work thru them and they are God’s child with God powers.
God has no need for the $1,000,000 because it is already God’s. And God will not be challenged or tempted in this way. If you want a biblical example you can look to Acts 8:20 Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money!
So Randi gets his fame and builds himself up by making a impossible challenge and then amazingly no one can do this, his schtick is not getting God to submit to his will. Something you can find out on your own, try to make a bargain with God, see how well God agrees to your terms.
Case closed and Randi is as big as a fraud as any of the carnival workers fortune tellers by defrauding the weak minded into taking the side of the impossible without them realizing it? Do I need to start another thread on this?
For the love of god, no.
But God=Love apparently so wouldn’t it be ‘For the love of Love, no.’?
I’m so confused.
I guess your “love” schtick only goes so far. She is a lying fraud, she’s in it for the money, and she won’t take the MDC because she couldn’t pass it in a million years and she damn well knows it.
Why do they have extra large size clothes, and extra small size clothes, but no extra medium size clothes?
and why do they have 100% cotton shirts but not 200% cotton shirts?
1- What is the MDC?
And
2- How does the Long Island Medium effect your life?
And
3 - How does the Long Island Medium effect(affect? - doesn’t matter anyway) what I have claimed about the Randi challenge?
- The Million Dollar Challenge. It’s not Randi’s Challenge, he doesn’t have or hold the money.
- It’s called Fighting Ignorance.
- Her only “effect” is that she is a lying cheat who is semi-successful in pulling in suckers, and James Randi is very good at exposing frauds like her.
To your points, I will only take #2, you think the Randi challenge, what you call the MDC, which I have defined as a carnival act equivalent to you not being able to tell god to make it rain tomorrow, as fighting ignorance applied to someone (admittedly) smart enough not to take it?
Thanks for that unbiased review of your own post.
I can verify this is true. However, God did not return my calls when I threatened to reveal those compromising photographs I have of him and Jezebel.