Not really, because no one else is trying to condemn me for this. The one person who has even commented so far specifically stated they understood why I did what I did. You did too, cos no one is that obtuse. You just cant stop banging the drum now tho.
where and who was that wanderer?
and i totally agree that no one else is condemning you for your actions. but shit look at the fracking results thus far.
heebus jeebus.
neta: oh, by the way, yes i am condemning you for your late vote shift to ed.
show me where i don’t.
Since you ask this, you lack imagination, or you’re scum. One of the two.
First of all, we’ll assume Natlaw is not legit. Otherwise this whole line of hypothetical is moot.
Now, the thinking can go that if Natlaw were town, while scum would most likely take out Natlaw, they might play a what-if. There have been multiple games where there’s been more than one protector. So if town had a second protector, they’d likely protect Natlaw. So going for a confirmed town would not be a bad play.
So scum take out you, since you’re confirmed and Natlaw can use the above excuse as to why scum didn’t attack him. And since you show up town, Natlaw has support that he confirmed a townie.
IMO, that’s a far better strategy for scum at this point than taking out a blocker. There’s always time to take out a blocker. Particularly since Pleo’s no doubt smart enough to realize that blockers should generally hold their actions in early game anyway, otherwise they’re a bigger threat to town than scum typically. So at this point, he’s not something they have a compelling reason to remove.
Huh? I don’t think you’re town. The fact that you lived is a not insignificant data point against you being town. Where did you get the idea that I think you’re town?
I disagree in this case. Normally, you’d be right. A blocker who’s holding back would be slightly better than confirmed town at this point. (It’s still too early for a blocker to be a true threat to scum.) However, killing a townie to support a scum’s town claim is better strategy. It’s what I would have done. Especially since Pleo provided a bit of a distraction. A distraction that is now removed. By killing Pleo, they’ve reduced the pool of unknowns, missed a chance to support Natlaw’s case, and lost a distraction, and did all this to exchange for a power that is not really threatening to them at this point.
It’s not damning against Astral, but it is suspicious.
Detectives are generally better used for confirming town, not finding scum.
If Nanook thought Astral was more likely to be scum, there’d be no reason for him to investigate in this case.
I don’t know if that was Nanook’s thinking, but it’s not like he’s not using a common strategy if it is.
Oh, I see now. I only ever watched Harry Potter, and there was one protector. It didn’t even occur to me that there might be two.
My mistake. When you said “And Astral coming up town confirms Natlaw’s save,” I thought you were assuming I’m confirmed town. I’m not, but I see we agree about that now.
He’s no doubt referring to me in post 2210. You know, the very post you responded to next with 2211? So how exactly can you miss it when you earlier addressed the very point you are asking OAOW about?
Are you even playing the same game the rest of us are?
i love triangulation.
I’m familiar with the strategy but I think the situation here was uncommon. Nanook had a scum result, that player had claimed Nanook’s role and prevented the lynch of another player. Nanook said earlier that he’d resolved to claim toDay. He’d had one Town result and one scum result. Knowing that he was about to put himself at risk of being Night killed after claiming, by investigating Astral he had a decent chance of finding a second scum and if not, at least he’d leave us with two Town results anyway. Given the circumstances of this game, I don’t see why he’d chose to investigate me over Astral.
because you are a slippery weasel. 
and i will add this. i understand the power of a dick confirming vts. but i tell you what i would rather have a true town dick report on Day 4 that they have found 3 scum rather than 3 town.
my two cents, ymmv, etc.
oh yeh, the one portion when i am am giving him grief for voting for someone he thinks to be town. and then linking it into your “i am not sure, but i am sure stance”.
yeh, that was scummy as all hell. thanks for reminding me.
I investigated you because I thought you were scum. I was trying to find a second scum to go with Natlaw. I was (probably) wrong as it turns out, but that was my thought process.
Personally I think that a detective’s best choice of targets are folks e’s most unsure about. If you’re already pretty sure what someone’s alignment is, and your investigation confirms it, you haven’t really gained much. Since there are more Town than Scum, the default assumption for everyone should be that they’re more likely Town, and so the person one’s most uncertain about will usually be the one whom one finds Scummiest, but there can be exceptions to that.
Quoth Hoopy:
I disagree. Of the likely Town power roles a blocker might accidentally hit, the only one that’s really a significant problem is the Detective (since doctors usually aren’t successful anyway, and early Vigs often do more harm than good). Weigh against this that the roleblocker has just as big a chance to hit the Scum killer as e does the detective, also has a chance to hit a Serial Killer if there is one, and also has the chance to inconvenience other Scum power roles. So you’re trading a risk of one blocked investigation for a chance of one saved life. But it’s better than that, even: If the blocker uses his power on someone and there’s no Scum kill that Night, that gives the blocker valuable information: There’s a good chance that the person e blocked was the Scum killer (even more so, once the Doctor is dead). And likewise, if the Scum kill does go through, then the blocker learns that that person wasn’t the Scum killer (admittedly less valuable information, but information nonetheless). So it’s not just a trade of information vs. life that you’re gambling on, it’s a trade of information vs. life plus information. Even just firing randomly, I think that a roleblocker can be expected to do more good than harm, and of course e won’t be firing randomly, either.
peeker, Wanderers may have suspected that ed was Town, but he had a perfectly good reason to suspect even more strongly than Astral was Town. If anything, you should be suspicious of the folks who didn’t vote ed to try to save the guy who was claimed investigated. Folks like, I don’t know, you maybe.
but since i was convinced he was town i should have voted him? seriously, what the fuck.
neta: and i didn’t have my vote on astral. so why would i move to someone that i strongly suspect, if not know, is town?
because i don’t have a clue what astral is. yeh, i should have probably moved my vote to astral to tie it up. is that what you are suggesting?
i voted for someone that i am convinced is scum. now if that is a bad townie then spank me into next week. but someone who votes for someone else and caveats it with "i think he is town’ is full of it. you guys/gals can give me a ration of crud for keeping discussion going, and that is your perogative. but never once, as a townie, have i ever voted for someone else being a townie because it is the easy way out. that is scum play and that is scum motivated.
crap, better get off the soap box before i get in even deeper shit with you folks.