This game could have recruitment, so investigations are always going to have a bit of doubt.
yeah, probably not going to happen. I spent too much energy telling Astral Penetration why he was wrong. And tomorrow is the first day with students in the building.
I notice that Chronos had his win condition come after. Has Mahaloth been around? I sent him a PM, but I want to give him a little bit of time before I act.
Never mind. He answered me. And I am expressly forbidden from acting how I wanted to. Ya’ll will have to wait for the spoilers.
Unvote: Whoever, was it peeper?
Vote: Suburban
When I flip Town, remember my suspcion of peeper despite the fact that it was purely metagamey.
Also, please don’t let Astral or others get away with "because I don’t understand or assume I understand and am proven wrong= you must be scummy.
Oh, and if I live until the Night, maybe someone can post that fact in real big and bold letters letting me know. That way I’ll see it when I skim.
kthxbye
vote plankton
his pm seems really off like others have noted. plus on reread i can’t hardly tell whether ed was just being ed as scum or something less sinister.
additionally, based on canon, denethor would be a good scum role. i mean he was supposed to be aligned with the good guys but ended up being a jerk. and i don’t play a whole lot of faith in canon or color but this seems consistent with our mods.
Wait, what? I can’t think of any innocent way to interpret this.
Ooops
unvote :peeper or whoever I was voting for
vote: Suburban
And here we have an illegitimate vote, getting towards the end of the Day, just like I warned against.
At present, things are tied between Special Ed and Suburban Plankton.
From [post=12786973]post 2[/post], the tiebreak is whichever reached the top vote first dies. I’m assuming that is SP, since he peaked at 8 votes.
Mahaloth, can you confirm this interpretation of the current situation is correct?
I would, as things currently stand, be OK with a lynch of either. Normally I would prefer to let the claimed investigator live, giving him rope to hang himself with. The textual criticism of his claimed PM did make me uneasy, particularly as the line “You have seen Sauron’s burning eye through your Palantir and know all of Middle-earth will be destroyed.” might equally appear in Saruman’s PM (after all, he was in possession of the Palantir of Orthanc until his army was wiped out at Helm’s Deep.)
I’d expect anyone with that sort of line in their PM to be one of Sauron’s minions. It rings all sorts of alarm bells with me.
Yes, this is obviously yet another rock solid indication that I am Scum.
You are too smart for me.
@Astral, yes, that is both snark and sarcasm
NETA: Never mind, cross-post.
That’s my line!
In all fairness, in the canon, Denthor never stopped being on the ‘good’ side. He was too strong for Sauron to corrupt. He just lost all hope.
Spiolers? For what. Last time I looked, you were Vanilla Town. That means you have no ‘special knowledge’, so what could you possible have to say?
unvote Pleonast
vote special ed
**Vote Count:
Suburban(7): Oredigger, Cucuy, Nanook, RedSkeezix, Gadarene, Peeker, Specialed
USCDiver(1): Drainbead,
Peeker(1): Natlaw
Astral(2): OneandOnly, USCDiver
Pleonast(2): Meeko, Suburban
SpecialEd(4): Astral, Chronos, Telcontar, MHaye
MHaye(1): Pleonast
**
Would you care to comment on Plankton’s claim, or are you just going to sit in the corner and pout?
Anyway, you raise some very good points Gadarene. And I’ll throw in that the compulsive part of the role sounds a bit off to me. (Though, to be fair, I’ve seen much weirder roles.)
I mean, why would a detective not investigate anyway? It’s not like a vig where use of power can actually hurt town. Even if losing power upon discovering scum forces you to claim, there’s no reason why you wouldn’t investigate. Even knowing that scum have watchers and trackers is no reason why you wouldn’t investigate. In fact, I can’t think of any reason why a detective would not investigate except if they had a vigging power (or something otherwise very detrimental) to go with it (yes, we’ve had dick/vigs and block/vigs in games in the past, both had a percent chance of vigging their target).
But if he’s telling the truth, scum have some wacky mechanic that would call for compelling a detective to investigate. And on top of that, town would have to have some ability to discover why a detective would not want to investigate, otherwise the compulsion is pointless. There has to be some negative equal to or greater than the investigation itself, and I can’t think of any offhand.
So yeah, the claim is strange. Very much so. But I’m still inclined to believe that we should look elsewhere for our lynch today.
ed this irks me. i understand your frustration. but shit if you are cashing it in i’ll move my vote back in a sam hill minute. you pulled a boner. you got called on it and generated some votes. and to be totally frank i still am a little confused if you get the scum mvp as a town or scum.
let’s just play for god’s sake.
interesting you can’t put a p right after a colon or it becomes a smiley.
for clarity sake
unvote: peeper or whomever for which my vote was cast
vote: suburban
Yes, this is true. However: -[ol][li]Denethor is one of those roles which does not require much of a stretch to flip from canon alignment.[/li][li]In the books, Tolkien is clear that Denethor’s suicide and attempt to take his son with him was an evil act, and by that act evil sapped Gondor’s ability to resist the assault.[/li][*]I’m considering the possibility that SP is actually Saruman false-claiming Denethor - that is, Denethor is SP’s cover role.[/ol]For those reasons, I’m seriously considering switching votes.
Forgot about that.
But for the most part, I’m playing this game assuming that there isn’t any anyway, because without an open recruiting mechanic, it’s gastard to drastically change how an uniformed town can strategize. We don’t know how recruitment works. And right now, we don’t even know if we have a way to find it out. Town wins through information acquisition. Recruitment that screws with that is a huge negative to town.
Of course, the fact that our mod refuses to comment one way or the other is annoying. Typically games with recrutiment will at least say it’s out there. There was nothing in the setup as described to indicate there was. So if there is, I’m going to be a bit put out by that fact.