BTW, here is a photo of John Muir sitting on that rock
So why Galen Clark did not put a no entry sign there?
Why did they put it now? In whose interests is this?
How did you post a photograph inside of a post here, opposed to providing a link?
I did not think that was possible.
In the interest of not having people lugging tripods out there, tripping and falling over the edge? Or groups big enough to crowd someone over the edge? Or wear away at/dislodge the rock?
I just thought people were more religious about observing posted rules.
Not on my screen. Must be a plug-in of some sort.
Well, here is another sign in the park.
(spoiler: the sign is at the top of a waterfall, and says very bluntly:“if you slip, you will die”.)
There will be no crowds there even without a no entry sign since there is a far more powerful force which will stop the vast majority of people.
That rock? I just imagined you setting up a top rope anchor: What if? What if? What if?
People of your persuasion usually want people to become less religious. But here you become zealous for the strict observance of the commandment “Thou shalt not sit on the edge of a 3000-feet cliff.” What religion is that?
Jeezum, lighten up. Why do you think they have a Do Not Enter sign?
Oh, and what is my “persuasion” that you could gather from an offhand post?
John Muir was an asshole. Sierra Club’s unspoken Moto: Protect from You, for Us.
The signs are there in the interest of the people who’s lives you endanger when they need to go and recover your splattered corpse off the side of the cliff when you fall. Under-paid park rangers. The signs are in the interest of those who would enjoy the view from a reasonable distance, instead of it being sealed off from a mile away due to asspipes abusing the priveledge and ruining it for everyone else.
You paid the entrance fee (presumably), follow the fucking rules!
But that’s the nice thing about being self-centered. You don’t need to be concerned with anyone else’s well-being. Its all you! Go, Girl!
The reality is for every asshole who wanders off trail, feeds the bears, wades into rivers above falls, ventures out unprepared into the wilderness, there are many other people who put themselves at serious risk to save their ass when they deserve a hearty, “Fuck them! Let them DIE!”. That’s not how society rolls, however.
But there is no need to protect the Hanging Rock from you, right? You will not be able to get even close on your unsteady legs.
Thank you for good wishes. However, if I fall from the Hanging rock - it will be all the way to the valley floor. So no risk to recover the corpse.
This job is done by recovery and rescue team, which is not on a regular payroll. They are only paid when they do recovery or rescue. So this would be an opportunity for them to get some money.
In such case the lawyers who would seal the area would be guilty.
Why don’t you take a shower and wash your pants?
I could not agree more with this statement. People operate in some bizarre Disney-kiddie movie-alternate universe mentality where every dense wood is in reality a cleansed safe purified area to be gazed upon, enjoyed and passed through on a single well-defined path with no risks at all until the next completely safe area is reached.
And, when some nitwit goes missing or goes off a steep incline and is immobilized or is attacked by an animal, the finger-pointing begins. It is a result of The Me Decade, where the world owes Me everything and I bear no responsibility for my own actions and decisions on any level.
Fucking morons. Rescue personnel and emergency responders and their families do not garner great comfort from losing a loved one who went out into danger for no reason other than the ignorance and hubris of an ill-prepared person. They don’t sit around for the rest of their lives thinking, " Gosh, Mom was a real hero " The truth here is that those family members sit around thinking, " Fucking idiot cost my Mom her life. "
You want to venture off into danger? Go for it. Free Will and whatnots. Don’t expect the world to risk themselves because you are irresponsible.
Ahhh, ignorance pranced about for all to see. Let me explain this to you in very coarse terms.
There is nobody, anywhere on this planet, who goes into Emergency Services as a career or as a volunteer, to make a dime. The pay, even for Paramedics and Flight Nurses, is atrocious. You see Search and Rescue as a mercenary pursuit? Going out into the wild to do S&R work is not " an opportunity for them to get some money".
Holy crap.
I would so have fallen off of that. Trip, pass out, whatever, I’d just walk up and everyone would start screaming.
“Yes officer, he just walked up, vomited and went over the edge like a low value coin.”
I have no patience with people who decide that signs don’t apply to them. It’s why many of the National Parks suffer annual irreparable damage. In nearly all of the parks and monuments I’ve visited (and it’s significant), I’ve seen morons putting themselves and others at risk to get that special photo angle, meanwhile trampling local vegetation, causing further erosion, or actually damaging delicate structures (like the glory holes in Yellowstone, where fucking idiots throw coins).
I once saw some asshat out on a crumbling promontory in The Badlands. He picked up his girlfriend and began swinging her toward the edge, pretending he was going to throw her off. The material under his feet was unstable and it was only because somebody grabbed him to make him stop that there wasn’t a serious or fatal accident.
I saw someone else at one of the many parks in the Southwest, who stepped over a railing in an area that was experiencing gusting winds, who then encouraged his girlfriend to walk out to the edge of the precipice so that he could take a photo. I had to turn away from that one.
The OP’s little adventure was irresponsible.
This is not the Pit, so let’s dial back some of the outrage.
By all means, feel outraged if you want…but then you may be better off taking it to the Pit. This forum is not the place to make vitriol-filled sentences in, so let’s ease up on the tone of some of the comments.
No nervous at all. As you could see, I was eating. The next video will include heart rate measurement.
Yeah, I agree. Getting hit by those coins really hurts.
If you watch the video you can clearly see that it was all solid rock. Not a single plant was trampled upon. No erosion caused. So what was hurt after all? Your sense of net worth?
This, coming from a person who uses those ridiculous poles for hiking. :rolleyes: I saw the shadows…
By the way, which one are you? Hanz or Franz?
This is because water polishes its bed. So when the water is relatively low you will have to step on the rock which is underwater for part of a year and is, therefore, polished. People do not understand this. And they do not have that paralyzing fear of water as they have of heights.
Situation is entirely different with the hanging rock. No explanation is needed. The vast majority of people will not come anywhere close even without any forbidding signs.
What’s wrong with hiking poles?
I looked up the names and it turned out that the gentlemen ridiculed the geniuses, like yourself, for their feeble bodies. I brought up a different issue: your cowardice. This is entirely spiritual.
I’ve already made one mod note in here, so here it is again a bit more clearly: Knock off the jabs at each other, because I’m going to warn the next one made.
Take it to the Pit or PM.