M:tG-- Threshold and death order

I don’t think this is correct. I poked around in Comp Rules (in case this changed recently and I was unaware of it), but I don’t see anything to support this. Point me to a section, would you?

I’ll PM you some details once I get home and have access to my MTG-Rules-L archives, unless someone else posts and says they think it would be of general interest. I tend to leave these kind of super specialized discussions in small circles because the game is complicated enough for most players without getting into this level of detail. In a nutshell the genesis of this ruling is from cards like Balance, Pox, the Commands cycle, etc. If a card has multiple sets of instructions for one effect, you follow the instructions in the order they’re printed on the card. That’s why for Balance you equalize Lands->Cards->Creatures. While technically it’s one event from a player’s PoV, there is a pseudo time order involved. Cards which care about time order can see this and use it.

Enjoy,
Steven

(yeah, this is deep-level rules stuff, but ignorance is ignorance! :slight_smile: )

I checked in #mtgjudge, and Lee Sharpe confirms that you are correct. I don’t think MTGO has this implemented correctly. Thanks!

MTGO has all sorts of stuff implemented incorrectly. There’s a guy in my playgroup who mostly plays on MTGO and he’s a good player who knows the rules pretty well, but we butt heads sometimes over differences between how MTGO works and how M:tG works. :slight_smile:

Remember Painter’s Servant? He said online it makes all your lands produce whatever color of mana you chose when it came into play. That’s pretty crazy stuff right there.

Enjoy,
Steven