Machinegun Dopers

Anyone else find it interesting that we have Dopers registered as Gene Stoner, inventor of the AR-15/M-16 and the Stoner assault rifles, and Kalashnikov, inventor of the AK-47/AKM?

Seems like Gene Stoner just started posting a few days ago, and hasn’t posted to any of the gun threads. hmmm.

Don’t forget JillGat.

And her two gittens?

Hey kalishnikov, I’ve never posted in any of the gun forums because I’ve yet to see one in the short time I’ve been on the boards.
Also, the M16 is not a machine gun. It’s an assault weapon. The AR15, which I invented, is merely a semiautomatic rifle, in it’s current configuration.
By the way, I always wanted to own an AK variant or two, however, I live in the PRK, and its just not possible at this time.

PRK? People’s Republic of Korea? Kiribati? Kalifornia? Inquiring minds want to know…

I live in the state formerly known as California, Which has become the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia. Also known to to many people as North Mexico.

The original AR-15 was a selective-fire rifle. The AR-15 (by name) was discontinued years ago, but still exists as the Sporter (my 1979 version was the “AR-15 Sporter”). I used to have an AKM (Avtomat Kalashnikova Modernizerovanyi) by Maadi a while ago. I sold it and my FN-FAL and my HK-91. I figured I could always replace them when I had more money. Oops! Too bad I didn’t get that Uzi, AR-180 and HK-94 I was looking at. I did replace the HK-91 with the SAR-8 Springfield copy. I suppose I can get the Uzi and AR-180 (the ugliest firearm I’ve ever seen) when I move out of the PRK.

And yes, I did register them with the DoJ so I have them legally.

It’s KalAshnikov, thank you very much. :slight_smile:

Personally, I’d like to design a rifle that has some of the better features of both. It would have the basic action of an AK, but with better sights, mag release, and safety like an AR, and a bolt hold open. I’d offer it in a variety of calibers. As a matter of fact, the gun I shoot most (and the one I take to my “defensive carbine” :wink: classes, is a SAR3 - a Romanian AK in 5.56.

I think I’ve figured out how to do the mag release, safety, and rear sight (and an optics rail where the rear sight is now) but an automatic bolt hold open that works with the existing mags is a bit harder.

I purchased my first AR back in 99, just when I thought Kali was going to outlaw them. Sure enough, they passed the law, so I went out and bought 2 more before the law took affect. I only wish I had bought a couple AK clones while I could. I’m not one to engage in AK vs. AR debates. Both weapons are great, just for different reasons.
I too, registered my rifles, but only because I work for the Federal Gov. A weapons violation, no matter how small, could get me terminated.
By the way, if either of you visited the old AR15.com, I was known as “cutlass”.

You bought a sword to a gun site?

Booo!!! Hiss!!!

(Ok, it was funny)

What about me??

Jill–Gat as in gun? or even Gatlin gun? That’s what I assumed he meant.

I think “gat” is a stretch for a machine gun name. I don’t own any NFA toys myself but have a pre-ban “Semi automatic assault weapon” AR-15. I bought it as a Colt sporter heavy barrel but converted to a pseudo M4A2 as it has the detachable carry handle. I installed a Bushmaster M4 barre which is only 14.5" long but has a permanently installed Vortex flash suppressor which makes it a nice legal 16.1".

Fortunately I have a budy who is very generous with his NFA toys. He has at least five machine guns I know of (in the legal sense, not the military sense). About every three months they have a submachine gun match in Mesa and he invited me along to shoot. He shoots his Sten and Uzi while I take his H&K MP5K. It’s actually a converted SP-89 with a registered auto sear but functionally identical. I’ve had enough practice I can get off single shots with the selector in burt mode. Pretty difficult actually with the high rate of fire. Yikes, I just realized I’m scheduled to shoot four matched by the end of this month. Cowboy shooting tomorrow and the 15th, rimfire benchrest the following saturday and submachinegun the saturday after that.

Padeye: I too modified my 1979 Colt AR-15 Sporter. In its life it’s had a heavy barrel, short barrel, collapsing stock and A2 stock. But now it’s back in its original configuration (I saved the parts). Since I still wanted an A2, I built one using all Bushmaster parts with a heavy barrel. I also have a CAR-15 that I built using a Bushmaster upper and an Olympic Arms lower. (The Olympic lower rec. was at the gun shop just before the ban, so I picked it up.) No full-auto parts (even though they would not make an automatic-capable rifle without the auto sear and selector) because the laws are such that it’s not worth the risk.