Changed title from Mcann to McCann to provide clarity.
- Gukumatz,
IMHO Moderator
Wow, so many confusions in a single sentence.
In the UK patients have strong statutory rights of access to their own NHS medical records. As do parents of young children. Some third parties also have some rights to see those records. But the copyright of those records belongs to the government (technically, the Secretary of State for Health), so the right to see them is not a right to publish them. So no one gets to ‘release’ even their own medical records.
There is the unsubstantiated allegation that the British police refused to let the Portuguese police see Madeline McCann’s medical records. No idea whether that allegation is true. But, unsurprisingly, patients and their parents don’t get to decide whether the police get access to their medical records in criminal investigations.
Until there is some evidence, EVERY theory about the case is pure conjecture. You have no idea what actual evidence has been collected by the police, so you also have no idea whether their theory of abduction by a stranger is conjecture any longer.
Your theory is certainly nothing but conjecture on conjecture. You’ve decided in the basis of a photo or two that the child had FAS, despite being shown evidence that “wide eyes” are not necessarily a symptom. You’ve decided that the parents could, somehow, hide this fact and thus conceal their motive for murder.
You have also consistently ignored any statements that conflict with your theory. So, why exactly did you bother to post this?
Jim, I haven’t ignored any statements from anyone who was addressing the FAS issue directly from a proffessional standpoint. There is more to the look than wide eyes. The overall look is what I feel like I recognize.
I felt some of the comments were very helpful in explaining how British law works regarding medical records. The only info I have on this case is from a Madeliene McCann discussion web site. I know we have several medical proffessionals here and was curious as to what they might think based on the photos. I really have no opinion on the parents. Theories on possible motives have been popping up over the years. When the case first hit the news 4 or 5 years ago the FAS theory jumped right out at me. I just never brought it up anywhere.
Over the past 25 years I have worked with quite a few alcoholics and have seen children with this condition. The overall look is what got my attention, along with the time frame of the child being 4 which is the age it is usually diagnosed and becomes apparent. FAS could be damaging to a Dr.s career etc. I thought and still think it is worth looking into as no one with any real credentials has debunked it yet.
Parents did it.
Nice to see a short & sweet opinion in IMHO 
So, why do you think they did it, and how? Surely the other diners at the table would have noticed if they’d vanished for long enough to kill & conceal a body?
Inever felt the parents intended to kill the child. I have always felt that they went to Portugal to transfer the child to a surragate parent possibly in Morrocco. I believe the mother feared that once the child was older a defect would come out exposing her as an alcoholic and ruining her career. Once all the publicity was given the case she had no other option but to instruct the person she transferred the child to have the baby murdered. Very weak theory on my part but that is the general impression I have carried.
I’m going to be very careful to not break the rules here.
The above opinion is a classic example of the kind of thing a delusional conspiracist idiot would come up with.
It is not just offensive to common sense, but also to basic human decency.
Obviously you have put a lot of considered thought into this—Seemingly every bit as much thought as the McCann family would have to have come up with such a foolproof and brilliant deception, as clearly no one back at home in Jolly Olde would possibly ever notice that they came back after their Portuguese vacation missing one child!!!
That theory isn’t just weak, it’s straight out of La La land.
Whatever you are smoking, can i get some? That is truly the most batshit crazy theory i have heard so far.
After reading up on the circumstantial evidence this was simply the impression I was left with. Would I convict the parents based on thsi? Hell no. This particular case has been discussed openly in forums and everywhere else. Otherwise I would have kept an “impresssion” to myself. With so many opinions allready out there I doubt a few more make much difference. When cops are trying to establish a theory often ideas based on very thin evidence are bounced around and then later checked for viability. This is just one more theory based on something I see with specific circumstances adding weight that I would like to see bounced around.
O Goodie!!!
I like learning about things that people believe; Based on the photos you have seen (because that is indeed what you said you are basing your entire theory of Dr. McCann’s alcoholism and Maddie’s Fetal Alcohol Syndrome on, right?) what do you believe Dr. McCann’s preferred choice of tipple is?
Does she look like a Scotch & Soda kind of a gal to you?
Maybe she’s partial to Stoli shooters?
Perhaps she likes a medium bodied Chardonnay with subtle hints of clove and chicory?
Do you believe (based on the available photographic evidence) that she probably usually just goes for a couple cold 40’s of Schlitz and a pint of Popov?
Apricot Brandy enemas?
I eagerly wait additional edification, and continued enlightenment.
If you were a detective assigned to a case would you look for any possible motive? Would you at least weigh the merits of possible motives before you decided to dismiss them. I have seen dozens of possible motives proposed on this case based on what I think is pretty thin logic. You obviously feel my logic on this issue is pretty thin ir no existent, I disagree with you. Probably a 90% chance there is nothing to what I proposed as a motive but there is some working logic behind it.
You might want to question the assumption that alcoholim would ruin a doctor’s career. Britain is not Utah.
Assuming she did have a problem, even if she murdered her child and bathed in the blood while singing Spice Girls hits she would not be able to erase the far more damning evidence of patients harmed by her alcoholism. If no patients were harmed, though, I don’t think her alcohol consumption would be a professional issue, even if her child did have FAS. That would be a tragedy, but FAS indicates a drinking problem during pregnancy, and is not evidence of a current drinking problem. I’m sure the Daily Mail would rush to judge, but the medical profession is a bit more sensible.
I agree with you on this, but not knowing how she might feel about herself and others meeting her child would lead me to look at it further. Alcoholics will sometimes go to extremes to hide evidence of their problem.
Your theory lives right in the heart of Crazy Town. Let me explain why.
It might make a certain amount of sense for the parents to go off to another country with bad police police so they could murder their child and get away with some claim of an abduction or tragic accident. It makes absolutely zero sense for them to go off to another country to give their child away and that no one would notice.
And if they planned to give the child away, and had a cover story of an abduction, it makes absolutely no sense that they would call the new owners and tell them to kill the child after they put out their cover story.
And what makes the least sense of all is that the new owners, who apparently wanted this child badly enough to commit a crime for it, would kill Madelaine on the instructions of the nervous real parents.
It’s a fair point.
Tossing your empties into the Pizza Hut dumpster down the street rather than throwing them away in your own trash can.
VS
Going to Africa (Morocco) and giving away your 4-year old daughter to be raised by strangers.
6 to 1…
Again, in a normal situation I would agree with you. After reading all the allegations of heavy cocaine use I threw normal out the window. Paranoia and sound decision making processes go down the toilet. The cocaine use as far as I know is strictly allegations, so my theory is in a big part based on the cocaine allegations. If I can find the source I will cite where some of the waiters in the hotel they were associated with were later arrested on cocaine trafficing. Several other references in various threads at the McCaan site I have been reading.
I have never considered proposing a theory on a motive to be even remotely the same as an accusation.
This is by far the most convincing theory to me - she’s living as someone else’s daughter.
If it happens in hospital delivery rooms, why not elsewhere?