Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Insipid [Game Over]

Chronos · August 17, 2009, 1:47am

I know I’m not exactly impartial, but I think it was a mistake for Ichini to examine us toDay, and I think it’d be an even bigger mistake for anyone else to examine us toMorrow. Going from almost-certain to completely-certain about some players doesn’t give very much information. Of course, it’s quite possible that one of us will be Night-killed, or that something else will come up before toMorrow that would moot the entire question-- A Day is a long time.

It occurs to me, meanwhile, that putting Ichini in the Engineer’s seat gives the Muties a very strong incentive to off her toNight: That would get rid of the closest thing we have to a confirmed Townie, without risk of a meddling Engineer seeing them do it. The other possibility I’m considering for use of my power would be to promote or demote Inner Stickler out of the Security position, if he’s not lynched: We might need to use the Brig in the endgame, which means we’d need somebody awake in that seat.

Chronos · August 17, 2009, 2:03am

Oh, and from the previous page but which I must have missed on first read:
Quoth Cookies:

It doesn’t make you likely to be Scum-- You’re pretty middle-of-the-road as far as my program results go. It’s Darth that looks scummy.

Darth_Sensitive · August 17, 2009, 2:16am

Course, I can’t figure out how those maths make me look scummy, but I’m not really worrying about it at the moment, as there are more pressing problems at the moment.

True, but it would also confirm that the two masons are actually masons, which I think is a net gain for the town.

Chronos · August 17, 2009, 2:31am

The thing is, I think it’s pretty likely that the Muties will off one of the three of us anyway. And if they’re going to do so, I’d prefer to have a chance to see who did it. Alternately, if the possibility of the Engineer observing scares them into killing someone else instead, then we’ll be as good as confirmed toMorrow, which would put us into the very strong situation where half of the folks in the game are confirmed.

Darth_Sensitive · August 17, 2009, 2:45am

Of course, if you three were the scum, that’s the kind of thing you would want the town to think. It’s WIFOM predicated on us knowing your status, and the scum playing the way you want them to.

Chronos · August 17, 2009, 3:39am

No, as in, if all three of us are alive toMorrow, when there are six players, then either we’re Town, or Town can’t win, so everyone might as well just assume we’re Town. Yes, the Mutie win condition technically requires a strict majority, but the lynch also requires a strict majority, so if Scum are half the Town, they can block all lynches and force a win.

Darth_Sensitive · August 17, 2009, 6:13am

Unless we manage to lynch or brig a scum?

ColdPhoenix · August 17, 2009, 7:42am

So there are two groups (from my perspective) that I should focus my votes on one or the other.

Chronos
Scuba_Ben
Ichini Sanshigo

The “loyal” group, who I am most suspicious about as it all seems too tidy. Probably me being paranoid though…

Inner Stickler
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
Hal Briston
Darth Sensitive

The unknowns. Two of whom aren’t saying much.

Even though I’m most suspicious of the “loyals”, I’m going to vote for the lurkers this time. If we lynch another town today, and the game’s not over, then I’m going to be targeting Chronos and Scuba…

So I’ll leave my votes on Inner Stickler and Hal Briston.

Inner_Stickler · August 17, 2009, 12:34pm

My internet broke! Waah! The ethernet port on my computer is being a bastid. (If anyone knows how to make it recognize when the cable is plugged in, please let me know.)

Ok, info relaying time. I targeted Chronos last Night and he interacted with Diggit. So I’m thinking mutie.

Vote Chronos
Vote Scuba

ColdPhoenix · August 17, 2009, 1:19pm

I’ve been suspicious of them for a while… and I don’t like the way they seem to vote for anyone who votes for them. Scares people off as one vote for them means two for you.

There may be no “mafia” at all. Could be that they (Chronos, Scuba and Ichini) lucked out with a doctor, examined Ichini so he came back “loyal” and then made up this mafia thing. It’s always seemed a little too tidy. Those three “confirmed”, but only their word for it.

Will have a look at what’s gone on again, have a little think and come back.

ColdPhoenix · August 17, 2009, 1:28pm

I’m going to go with my gut on this one. Even before this mafia proclamation came out I was suspicious of them. (Or is **Inner **scum playing on the voiced suspicions about Chronos/Scuba?)

Unvote Inner
Unvote Hal

Vote Scuba

Inner, why not throw Chronos in the brig?

ColdPhoenix · August 17, 2009, 1:30pm

Sry

Vote Scuba

Scuba_Ben · August 17, 2009, 1:49pm

Which could also mean that Diggit interacted with Chronos.

Since I know Chronos is Loyal (a fact only certain to him and me), I have to assume that Inner Stickler is on The Other Team.

Vote Inner Stickler and run the risk of OMGUS.

Vote count, please? I want to know how close we are to lynching somebody. It’s Day 2, we need information.

I also haven’t seen much from Hal in a few real-time days. I don’t like Lynch the Lurker, but I think he’s high on the vote count list.

Vote Hal Briston

AOP: It’s possible (but highly unlikely, IMnshO) that Chronos is both my school Mate (mason) and Mutineer. There’s enough other nonstandard rules – but this possibility would screw over the mason role.

Darth_Sensitive · August 17, 2009, 2:11pm

But there wasn’t a record of any interaction with Chronos’ claimed investigation.

Scuba_Ben · August 17, 2009, 2:13pm

Which Pleo said was a Day action, not a Night action. So the Doc’s examination wouldn’t show up on the Engineer’s monitoring.

Scuba_Ben · August 17, 2009, 2:15pm

ABWOP: Pleo said so in the PM I paraphrased in #145

Darth_Sensitive · August 17, 2009, 2:31pm

Good catch.

Chronos · August 17, 2009, 3:36pm

Well, I know absolutely certainly that I did nothing to DiggitCamara, and unless “hacker” is an extremely complicated power, I’m pretty sure that Diggit didn’t do anything to me, either. Which means that Inner Stickler is lying. Fortunately, as it happens, I’m already voting for him, so I don’t need to change my vote.

Meanwhile, I also don’t think that Scum would try a one-for-one trade with a Mason unless there were three of them, since two confirmed Townies, one known Scum, one hidden Scum, and two unconfirmed Townies would be terrible odds for them toMorrow. So I’m now pretty sure that there are three Scum total.

With assuming my innocence:
Inner Stickler |ComeToDarkCookies |Hal Briston |
ColdPhoenix |Inner Stickler |Darth Sensitive |
Inner Stickler |ComeToDarkCookies |Darth Sensitive |
Inner Stickler |Hal Briston |Darth Sensitive |
Total number of possibilities: 4
ColdPhoenix 1
Normal Phase 0
Ichini Sanshigo 0
Inner Stickler 4
Chronos 0
ComeToDarkCookies 2
DiggitCamara 0
Hal Briston 2
Darth Sensitive 3
Scuba_Ben 0
Now, the way I see it, if we can convince the rest of the Town to trust me and vote for Stickler, then we’re pretty well set. On the other hand, if folks trust Stickler instead and we do nothing else, then we’re lost, since we’d go into toMorrow with three Scum who could block the vote, and we couldn’t brig any of them since Stickler would be Security.

Therefore, I would like to ask for a bit of insurance: If the vote is such that Scuba is going to be lynched, I will put in an order for Stickler’s promotion, and I request that ColdPhoenix put in an order for Stickler’s arrest before Nightfall. If Stickler is correct and Scuba comes up Scum, then the Security Officer toMorrow will of course not execute the arrest order, and there’s no harm done. On the other hand, if (as I know to be the case) Scuba comes up Town, then just after the spacing, Stickler will no longer be Security, his guilt will be evident, and whomever is Security will be able to arrest him.

Chronos · August 17, 2009, 3:38pm

…And I just realized that I still have an arrest order out for me, which Stickler can execute as soon as he realizes it too. So I’d better put in my order now:

Promote Inner Stickler

And I would really prefer if ColdPhoenix retract that arrest order on me, too.

Pleonast · August 17, 2009, 3:39pm

A little over three hours until the end of the Day.

Day Two Current Vote Count

8 players outside the Brig => 5 votes to lynch. No one is lynched with the current votes.

Hal Briston (3): Scuba_Ben [70-211+273], [del]ColdPhoenix [156-271][/del], Chronos [223], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [257].
Inner Stickler (3): Scuba_Ben [70-211+273], [del]ColdPhoenix [156-271][/del], Chronos [255], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [257].
Darth Sensitive (2): [del]Scuba_Ben [70-211][/del], Chronos [93-226+232], Ichini Sanshigo [168], [del]ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [257-260][/del].
ColdPhoenix (2): [del]Scuba_Ben [70-211+224-253][/del], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95], Inner Stickler [158], [del]Chronos [223-255][/del].
Scuba_Ben (2): [del]Scuba_Ben [70-89][/del], [del]Darth Sensitive [79-174][/del], [del]ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [137-229][/del], ColdPhoenix [156-250+272], [del]Hal Briston [175-236][/del], Inner Stickler [269].
Chronos (1): [del]Scuba_Ben [70-94][/del], [del]ColdPhoenix [87-100][/del], Inner Stickler [269].
Ichini Sanshigo (0): [del]Scuba_Ben [70-148][/del].
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (0): [del]Scuba_Ben [70-211+224-230][/del], [del]ColdPhoenix [87-116][/del], [del]Chronos [223-231][/del].

Doctor Ichini Sanshigo is examining Scuba_Ben [245].

Arrest warrants:
Chronos by ColdPhoenix [169].

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