Yes, and that would have sucked. But at least it would have been possible for Town to release me.
Again, though, I realize too late that I made the wrong move. As soon as Stickler threw me in the brig, he would have been out of the Security position, and his successor (presumably Cookies) would have had the power to release me. This mistake, again, was due to me not having long enough to think it over.
If we started with a vastly overpowered 4 Mutineers, we’ve been at Lynch or Lose since Day 2.
3 starting Muties – 1 mislynch left.
2 starting Muties – 2 mislynches left.
What we know:
Ichini was Loyal, and reported me as Loyal.
I have reported Chronos as Loyal.
And now it occurs to me that if I had been promoted Yesterday, I’d be Doctor, and could confirm or reject someone. The first two Days we gave a free pass to the Doctor and the examination subject. Which, at the moment, means Darth Sensitive could choose someone else to survive.
Therefore, I recommend:
And now to review Chronos’s reason against Sensitive.
If we had 4 mutineers, Scum could have forced a win yesterDay, no matter what Town did: They could have all outed themselves at the beginning of the Day and it wouldn’t have mattered, since they would just refuse to lynch themselves, refused to execute a Brig order against themselves, and forced us into a situation this Morning where there were 4 Scum, 3 Town for the win.
Good point, Chronos.
Therefore we started with 2 or 3 Mutineers, and have 1 or 2 left.
I’d like to hear what ColdPhoenix has been sitting on all Night-cycle.
(And the -cycle thing is from Paranoia.)
Not much new for you I’m afraid.
From my perspective it’s now confirmed that **Scuba, Chronos **and **Ichini **are (were in **Ichini’s **case) loyal. Makes it a lot easier for me to target my votes!
I found Cookies’ non-voting and mistaking the time when it was clear Inner was scum suspicious. That said, I’ve spent the whole game until now thinking the Masons were scum so my suspicions aren’t worth much…
Am tempted to vote for **Darth **too.
Finally, in case it works:
Release Chronos
Release Chronos
ColdPhoenix, you’ve got a good point about DarkCookies. She had vague suspicions of Inner Stickler, but didn’t post them, even when reminded that there was plenty of time before Dusk.
For now: Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
I’m up in the air about Sensitive.
Chronos, please cross check ColdPhoenix. I would hate to be led down the wrong path by Scum for a third game.
How can **Chronos **crosscheck me?
Woohoo! We nailed scum!
D’oh! I have no business using the word “we”.
Ah well…my apologies once again. Work was more hectic than expected, and out family trip to Sesame Place was moved up to earlier in the week. But I’m back, and will hopefully be more useful.
By the by, after doing a quick scan of the thread (which was basically “look for my name”), I need to point out that noting if somone is online or not isn’t always useful. If they’re not online, well, that tells us something. But if they are online, that doesn’t always mean they’re actually using the Dope. I practically always scan as being online, just because the Dope is always in an active window. Doesn’t mean I’m actually using it, though.
Ok, serious reread time.
Simple. By providing better analysis than I can do.
Just check my Mafiascum history for details.
Ah! Okay. 
Cookies voted. She already had a vote in place on Stickler when he came forward with his claim, and didn’t remove it.
Now, that is perhaps slightly suspicious of her, since her original reason for voting Stickler was lurking, and she kept her vote on him after he showed without making clear why she was still suspicious of him. But I’d still like to hear what she has to say on the matter before I find it suspicious enough for a vote.
My gut feeling is positive on him: Yes, he was a little more suspicious of us than I think was justified, but he acted on those suspicions in a measured way (keeping open the possibility that we were Town, too), and didn’t try to hold onto a grudge once the evidence came in. He also looks pretty good in my vote analysis (which, again, I must remind myself and everyone else is still in beta test)-- The only scenario where he comes up Scum is one where Darth is also Scum.
The player I’m currently least certain about (one way or the other) is Cookies. Given my philosophy that detectives should target the least certain player, that’s whom I would prefer Darth investigate (though, as someone posted earlier, he should postpone his investigation until it’s pretty clear who we’re going to lynch-- Not much point in killing the patient).
Day three Current Vote Count
6 players outside the Brig => 4 votes to lynch. No one is lynched with these votes.
Hal Briston (2): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [257], Chronos [318].
ColdPhoenix (1): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95].
Darth Sensitive (1): Chronos [318].
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (1): Scuba_Ben [327].
Arrest warrants:
[del]Chronos by ColdPhoenix [169][/del] cancelled by ColdPhoenix [325].
I did vote. I found Inner stickler’s late arrival with such potentially important information about Chronos to be hard to swallow, add fuel to the fire with people finding evidence that he had been online. Keeping the investigation results out of the game for so long was crappy play.
I was in the middle of departing my mother’s house when I logged in to see what was going on, but I wasn’t clear and how much time I had left at the time that I posted. Reading Scuba Ben’s response very quickly, I though I my post was already 6 minutes into Dusk which is why I did not post again.
I’d appreciate not getting votes for reasons that don’t exist (like my not voting for Inner when I was) so I shall be leaving my vote on ColdPhoenix for now. And I’m leaving my vote on Hal as well in hopes for some participation.
Now, if you want to be suspicious of someone for not voting, how about Hal Briston? So far as I can tell, his sole contributions to the thread have been:
1: Sowing misinformation about who the Mutineers might be, on the assumption that some of the officers, but not the captain, must have been in on it. OK, this might have been an innocent mistake, but it didn’t help anything, regardless.
2: Voting ScubaBen for his “vote everyone” tactic.
3: Casting further suspicion on Scuba and I because of the mason claim
4: [url=“http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11444302#post11444302”]Unvoting Scuba Ben
Thus leaving himself with no votes in place at all on Day 2, which, I must point out, is strictly worse than voting for everyone (the only reason he gave for the one vote he did cast, on Day 1).
How about it, Scuba, ColdPhoenix, Darth? Anyone else want to put a little pressure on Hal for his non-participation?
That third link should be Casting further suspicion on Scuba and I because of the mason claim
Good point. I hadn’t noticed that. That looks very good for her.
Following that, in my view the scum has to be either **Hal **or **Darth **(or both?).
Evidence in my favour (for others) is that **Inner **only voted for Scuba, **Chronos **and myself. I don’t think he’d have voted for me at the start (when it looked like I would be lynched) if I were scum.
Agreeing with Chronos, I’m happy to start with Hal.
Vote Hal Briston
Chronos, good catch about Hal.
Vote Hal Briston
I’m slightly inclined to de-suspect Cookies and ColdPhoenix per the past few posts. So at the moment, my #2 suspect is Darth Sensitive by process of elimination.
Unvote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
Who would be better for Doc Sensitive to examine Today – Cookies or ColdPhoenix? Who is less certain and would give better information?
I probably won’t be on the boards much today before Dusk. (But at least I’ll make Lieutenant 1/c!)
Wait, I think we can crack this open completely. To review the facts: We currently have 6 players alive, two of whom are confirmed Town, and either one or two of whom are Scum. The plan:
1: We lynch Hal and arrest Darth, or the other way around.
2: With the arrest, Scuba (whom we know we can trust) becomes Doctor
3: Doctor Scuba investigates Cookies
4a: If Cookies comes up guilty, we of course lynch her toMorrow
4b: If Cookies comes up innocent, and there’s a murder toNight, then it must have been committed by ColdPhoenix, so we lynch him toMorrow
4c: If Cookies comes up innocent, and there’s no murder toNight, then the last mutineer must be the guy we threw in the Brig, so we lynch him toMorrow.
To break this down, according to every possible arrangement of Scum:
1: ColdPhoenix alone is Scum-- We mislynch toNight, but can afford the mislynch. When everyone but him is accounted for and we still get a kill, we learn in time that he’s guilty and kill him for the win.
2: Cookies alone is Scum-- We mislynch toNight, but learn she’s Scum from the investigation, and kill her toMorrow for the win.
3: Hal alone is Scum-- We win when we lynch him.
4: Darth alone is Scum-- We have no night-kill, since he’s in the Brig, and lynch him from there for the win.
5: Darth and Hal are the two Scum-- We’ve killed one and brigged the other, so there’s no Night-kill, and we kill the guy in the brig for the win.
6: Darth and ColdPhoenix are the Scum-- ColdPhoenix is the only unconfirmed who could have done the murder, so we lynch him toMorrow, and deal with Darth in the brig at our leisure
7: Darth and Cookies are the Scum-- We learn that Cookies is guilty, and lynch her toMorrow, and deal with Darth in the brig at our leisure
8: Hal and ColdPhoenix are the Scum-- ColdPhoenix is the only unconfirmed who could have done the murder, so we lynch him toMorrow for the win
9: Hal and Cookies are the Scum-- We learn that Cookies is guilty, and lynch her toMorrow for the win
10: ColdPhoenix and Cookies are the Scum-- In this case and this case alone do we lose. But I think that, given the voting record, it’s extremely unlikely that ColdPhoenix and Cookies are both Scum together. So this case is a risk I’m willing to take.
Ooh, very good thought at the plan. Give me a minute or five to review it.