ColdPhoenix is not scum.
The blinking lights of the ship’s duty cycle switch to Day. A new roster is presented:01. ColdPhoenix – Captain
02. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies – Executive Officer
03. Scuba_Ben – Chief of Security
04. Darth Sensitive – Crew-memberUpon seeing the new list, every scrambles to see what happened. Loyal crew-member Chronos has been jettisoned out the aft torpedo tube. If he survived the launch and the short traverse, he certainly did not survive the impact with the asteroid currently being targeted. And a malfunction in the Brig’s circuits seems to have released Darth Sensitive.
Day Four has now started and will end Thursday August 27 at noon PT (3pm ET).
4 players outside the Brig => 3 votes to lynch. No one is lynched with these votes.
ColdPhoenix (1): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95].
Arrest warrants:
Darth Sensitive by ColdPhoenix [354].
Possibilities:
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Sensitive’s report was honest; ColdPhoenix is not Scum.
1a. ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies is the only Scum.
1b. Sensitive is Scum (unlikely).
1c. Both Cookies and Sensitive are Scum. -
Sensitive’s report was dishonest; ColdPhoenix is Scum.
For this to happen, Sensitive would also have to be Scum.
If two players were Scum, we’d be dead already. Therefore it has to be only one.
Case 1b is unlikely because a player in the Brig cannot use their Night actions. Therefore, Sensitive would not have been able to either kill or release emself.
Therefore, Cookies is Scum.
Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
As for the brig malfunction – someone has a special ability as a Night action to release one or more players from the Brig. Obviously, it’s not me; it’s unlikely to be Sensitive. I don’t think it matters whether it’s CP or Cookies.
I would love to see this scenario run again with 15-ish players.
Interesting. If **Darth **was still in the brig we’d have the game sown up.
As I see it we must have only 1 scum. If there were 2 then we’d have lost now. As (from the mutineer PM):
“You win when, at any time, the number of mutineers not in the Brig is greater than or equal to the number of loyal crew-members not in the Brig.” (Am I right in assuming that we’d have lost now rather than tonight if there were 2 scum?)
**Chronos **was town so **Scuba **is definitely town
As **Darth **confirmed I am not scum then I am definitely town. If I were scum then **Darth **would be town and would have identified me as scum.
So the choice is between **Cookies **and Darth.
Does Darth’s release tell us anything? If he were scum could he have killed **Chronos **if he were only released at the end of night? If not, does that mean **Cookies **is scum? Was he released because he was scum?
Since I’m getting confusion from all quarters, let me remind all of you:
Darth is not confirmed, and that means neither are you. But nice try in trying to dodge the rule clarification. I had forgotten it myself and have been furiously PMing with Pleo.
What doesn’t make sense from where I’m sitting, under the belief that there are 2 scum left with Scuba and I, is why you didn’t just release Darth from the Brig yesterday instead of waiting to somehow release him in the Night? Coupled with the other mystery of why Inner didn’t put Chronos in the Brig when he could have, there must be some funky limitations or requirements for what the mutineers can do with respect to the Brig.
Since I doubt you’re willing to arrest yourself or your scum buddy Darth, all I can do at this point is vote for you both, but by all means feel free to make me wrong in that doubt.
Vote Darth
And Scuba, I highly recommend taking another look at things.
Really, Scuba. Truly. And quickly.
There is a certain thought to re-arrest Sensitive.
It does work both ways, with the rule tweak.
Either Cookies or ColdPhoenix killed Chronos.
If ColdPhoenix is Scum, so is Darth Sensitive.
Cookies could be Scum by herself, or with Darth Sensitive.
Three possibilities.
And this is why I’m annoyed that Darth Sensitive “misunderstood” the rule about the timing of the Doctor’s action.
Vote Darth Sensitive
I’ll have to reevaluate Cookies, and the margin is too small to contain my analysis for now.
Are you worried he’ll get out again or something? Even if he was able to, they’d assumedly have to burn a half-cycle to get him out again. Why not brig him just to be safe?
Dagnamit, I think someone has been hacking my brain and not the ship’s computer…
- ColdPhoenix – Captain
- ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies – Executive Officer
- Darth Sensitive – Chief of Security
- Scuba_Ben – Crew-member
If I make another mistake on the roster, I think we can assume the super-secret Brain Slug faction has won.
How the heck did we all miss that? Looks like I’m the only one likely to see the inside of a cell today.
I don’t understand why, Scuba, if you suspect Darth enough to vote for him, that you are giving his results on ColdPhoenix the benefit of the doubt.
Who is “we” kemosabe?
“We” = anyone posting between #382 and #391 but not realizing you had been both released from the brig and demoted. I only noticed the release.
Sorry to exclude you from the club, but you have to arrive early to ride this party train.
Personally, I just pmed the mod.
I missed this post last night as I just posted and logged off. Good point about the secret power.
Why would someone release Darth? I can’t see town releasing him as we don’t know his alignment for sure. That means scum released him. Scum released him for one of two reasons:
- to get their fellow scum out to aid in voting/killing
- to cast suspicion on Darth (if Darth’s town) so that we lynch him tonight
Either ways, I’m now pretty sure that Cookies is scum, unsure about Darth and pretty sure Scuba is town.
In case Cookies isn’t lynched I’ll at least get an arrest warrant out there as it may help:
Arrest Cookies
But lynch is best:
**Vote Cookies
**
Yeah, you foiled my dastardly plan… Why are you so convinced that there are 2 scum? Know something I don’t? Why the furious pming? Thought the game was over? I didn’t release Darth because I thought he may be scum.
Darth,
I see you’re online. What are your thoughts on arresting Cookies?
I’m convinced there are 2 scum left, and that you are one of them, because
a) I know I’m loyal
b) I’m as convinced as I can be (within the realm of gastardly error) that Scuba is loyal
c) Chronos died
d) Darth was in the Brig at Dusk
e) The game wasn’t declared over at Dawn
I was not the only one who had forgotten the rule clarification, hence my PMing Pleo to try and figure out what was going on. Without the reminder of the rule clarification it seemed like the game should have been over, Town wins, woot. But the game wasn’t over.
Darth couldn’t have killed Chronos because he was in the Brig, so someone who wasn’t me and very-probably-wasn’t-Scuba did it, which leaves you.
If there was only 1 scum left and Darth is Town, the game would’ve been over as soon as he was released, however he was released.
Anything else would involve some very gastardly reconciliation of events in the Night with respect to the limitations of the Brig, clandestine releases by Night out of the Brig, the ability to kill, and how any of those things impact that key phrase of the win condition of “at any time”.
That pretty much sums up where I am too (only in reverse).
Though I am unsure about your point (e). Why would Town have won the game if there were still scum alive even if they were in the brig.
The difference between our position is that I am not 100% convinced that Darth is scum (though I think he very well may be).
I guess it all comes down to Scuba and who he believes?
I thought I’d have a look at where people have placed their end day vote.
I’ve looked at myself, Cookies and Darth as we’re still in the game. I’ve excluded Scuba as we’re all pretty sure he’s town. I’ve included Inner as he is our only confirmed scum.
What it shows is that Cookies and Inner have voted for me every time. Looks good for me (especially day one where I was almost lynched) that Inner was voting for me. Doesn’t look good for Cookies that she was voting in alignment with Inner.
I voted for Inner every time. Looks good for me. But Cookies and Darth also voted for inner in the Day 2 lynch.
Darth only voted twice but couldn’t vote day 3 as was brigged. Both votes were for the person who was lynched and quite late in the day. Does this indicate a less involved town player or scum jumping on the bandwagon?
Day One Final Vote Count
Normal Phase (6): ColdPhoenix [156], Inner Stickler [158], Darth Sensitive [176].
ColdPhoenix (4): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95], Inner Stickler [158].
Scuba_Ben (4): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [137], ColdPhoenix [156]
Inner Stickler (2): ColdPhoenix [156].
Hal Briston (2): ColdPhoenix [156].
Day Two Final Vote Count
Inner Stickler (6): ColdPhoenix [156-271+282], ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [257]. Darth Sensitive [300]
ColdPhoenix (2): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95], Inner Stickler [158].
Hal Briston (1): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [257].
Scuba_Ben (1): Inner Stickler [269].
Chronos (1): Inner Stickler [269].
Day Three Final Vote Count
Hal Briston (4): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [257], ColdPhoenix [337]
ColdPhoenix (1): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95].