Mafia: Mutiny on the SS Insipid [Game Over]

Day Four Current Vote Count

4 players outside the Brig => 3 votes to lynch. No one is lynched with these votes.

ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (2): Scuba_Ben [383], ColdPhoenix [396].
Darth Sensitive (2): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [386], Scuba_Ben [389].
ColdPhoenix (1): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95].

Arrest warrants:
Darth Sensitive by ColdPhoenix [354].
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies by ColdPhoenix [396].

The Loyal crew are screwed. :frowning: (See my endgame play in Lost Mafia.)

I don’t hear either ColdPhoenix or Dark…Cookies (1) proposing a pro-Crew reason to release Darth Sensitive, or (2) admitting to doing so. So I’ll go the other way:

Darth, what message did you receive when you were released from the Brig?

Firm logic, as always starting with restating the obvious:

  • Chronos was Night-killed.
  • Tf. either ColdPhoenix or Dark…Cookies is a Mutie.
  • Whoever that was, probably released Darth Sensitive.
  • Darth Sensitive is almost certainly a treasonous mutineer.
    —> So who is his team-mate?

Sensitive being Scum does not automatically prove ColdPhoenix being Scum.

But this morning, it’s what I’m leaning towards.

Unvote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
Vote ColdPhoenix

Also-also:

I am now very suspicions of ColdPhoenix for issuing an arrest warrant for Cookies and not himself. Why did you do so, Phoenix?

Cold not warranting himself is smart if cold doesn’t know the person with the ability to arrest is protown.

Regarding my release, I simply asked the computer to “pretty please open the door” and it did.

Sensitive, are you claiming a counter-Brig power?

Would such a power be pro-Crew or anti-Crew? And which are you?

No power. I just ended up outside.

Let’s try this again.

Chronos discounted the idea that ColdPhoenix and Dark…Cookies are both Muties.

So I see four possibilities:

  1. ColdPhoenix is a Mutineer, and therefore so is Darth Sensitive.
  2. Dark…Cookies is the sole Mutineer.
  3. Dark…Cookies and Darth Sensitive are both Mutineers.
  4. Darth Sensitive is the sole Mutineer, and was able to both let himself out of the Brig and Night-kill Chronos. But this interferes with the rule that a player in the Brig can’t take Night actions.

In cases 1 and 3, the Loyal Crew’s pooch is truly screwed, barring some tiebreaker. In fact, in case 1, the Mutineers can force a win Today-cycle. So I dearly hope that ColdPhoenix is Loyal – it’s the only way us Crew can win.

For completeness: Darth Sensitive reported ColdPhoenix was not Scum. Either this was an accurate report, or Sensitive and ColdPhoenix are both Scum, or somebody has a power to interfere with the Doctor’s exam. And nobody has claimed a power role.

In fact: Anybody with a power role, preferably a verifiable one, this would be a very very good time to claim.

Seeing as ColdPhoenix being Scum practically clinches a win for Scum, and my only chance to win is if he’s Loyal:

Unvote ColdPhoenix

And still wondering about Dark…Cookies.

Why would I issue an arrest warrant for myself? I know I’m loyal and there are at least 1 and potentially 2 scum on the loose?

Quite right. If we were both scum them we could force a win. So we’re not both scum. So we’re either both town or opposing alignments. If I were scum and **Darth **town then he would have identified me as such. Therefore I’m town, **Darth **is unconfirmed and **Cookies **is looking dodgy.

As **Darth **is security I’d like him to arrest Cookies. It will be a pro-town move.

It did occur to me that if you and Darth are both Scum, you could spend the whole Day gloating. You two haven’t started gloating, so this case is not likely.

CP Scum, DS Scum -> win for Scum, no way Crew can win, so go ahead and gloat.
CP Scum, DS Town -> DS would have identified CP as Scum. This did not happen.
CP Town, DS unknown -> game continues

I agree with your conclusion, ColdPhoenix. Either DS is Scum, Cookies is Scum, or both. I am leaning towards DS being Scum with some Brig-negating ability.

But in case he’s not:

Darth Sensitive, please arrest either yourself or Dark…Cookies. Then we can lynch the other.

Day Four Current Vote Count

4 players outside the Brig => 3 votes to lynch. No one is lynched with these votes.

Darth Sensitive (2): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [386], Scuba_Ben [389].
ColdPhoenix (1): ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies [95], [del]Scuba_Ben [402-406][/del].
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (1): [del]Scuba_Ben [383-402][/del], ColdPhoenix [396].

Arrest warrants:
Darth Sensitive by ColdPhoenix [354].
ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies by ColdPhoenix [396].

Any pair of Scum that includes Darth Sensitive is a probable sure win for Scum, as he is Security and can arrest (or not) Dark…Cookies as necessary.

Chronos discounted the pair of ColdPhoenix and Dark…Cookies. However, if they ARE both Mutineers, Darth Sensitive can arrest Cookies and not vote.

However, Darth arresting Cookies is not meaningful, as it does not indicate whether Darth is Loyal or Scum.

Darth not arresting Cookies would be a strong indicator that Darth knows (or strongly believes) that Darth and Cookies are on the same side.

So. Darth, Cookies, how can you two demonstrate whether you two are on the same side or not, and which side that would be?

I have no idea why Darth hasn’t put me in the brig, nor do I have any way for any confirming to take place without someone either dying or ending up in the brig.

If **Darth **doesn’t brig **Cookies **then as far as I’m concerned he’s scum and I will be voting accordingly.

Cookies, will you promote **Scuba **into security. If not, why not?

I’m not sure that will make a difference, ColdPhoenix. The promotion takes effect at the end of the Day, after the spacing.

The only way I become Security during the Day is for somebody to get arrested.

As the only person who’s been in the brig, it sucks.

No porn, beer, or video games. I wouldn’t wish that on anybody.

Okay, we’re screwed. They’re both scum.

Says the person who thinks I’m scum but isn’t voting for me…

Yeah, posted that quickly last night. I’ve got plenty of time to vote.
**
Vote Darth**

If **Cookies **promotes Scuba then I’ll think her a lot less scummy.

And following up from my #408 wherin I reason that ColdPhoenix is Loyal:

Vote ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies

Just to make sure that if only one of you is Scum, I’m voting to space whichever of you it is.

I’m happy to do it, but I don’t see that it will accomplish anything. Why would it make you feel better about my loyalty?