Top of the Page Vote Count
1 – ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies (DiggitCamara)
1 – fluiddruid (Omi No Kami)
1 – NAF1138 (Hal Briston)
1 – DiggitCamara (percypercy)
1 – Lemur866 (Projammer)
1 – Millit the Frail (Idle Thoughts)
1 – nesta (ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies)
In the WereWolf II thread, the first vote was cast by Pleonast.
Immediately afterwards, FlyingCowofDoom questioned that move… turns out FlyingCowofDoom was mafia
Does history repeat itself?
(FOS->NAF1138)
Okay, it looks like we need a sub for Achren. Can I get a PM from glee, Malacandra, tirial, threnodyangelfire, or MadTheSwine taking his place?
The point I was trying to make with the analogy was that even though scum can hide behind a vote that they allegedly determined at random, that doesn’t mean a truly random vote/FOS is a bad idea for someone who uses it on the first day, when information is lacking for a more informed decision.
Just because there are people online who are quite skilled at pretending to be a bank or eBay, doesn’t mean one can’t legitimately benefit/profit using the internet as a medium for transactions involving money, you just have to be vigilant.
My Mom was visiting last night, so my posting was a bit distracted…
Quite possibly to my detriment, I’ve now posted copiously my rationalizations for some approaches that apply to a very specific (and shortlived) portion of the game. There have been a few interesting interpretations of those approaches.
In no particular order…
So here is my take on the above quotes…
While they have all had some sort of perspective that differs from my “First Day” approach, only one of them voices that difference of perspective without spinning what I said into something that could be used as fuel against me, either today or later in the game.
:smack: Must…resist…the desire…to use…words…like…“all”…
So as quoted above, Projammer agrees with me more than disagrees. So I should have said:
“While most of them had some sort of perspective that differs from my “First Day” approach…”
To be fair, NAF1138 never even FOS’d you over that. Just a little gentle prodding, nothing out of the norm.
I dunno, from what I posted as reason for voting for you it seems reasonable enough to me and makes sense. It’s not completely out of the blue or even hostile and if nobody casts a vote, the game goes nowhere. I casted my vote for you (and even said I may change it later, which, again, I may still do) but your defense at my voting and implying I may be scum just makes me all the more suspicious.
If someone voted for me, I wouldn’t automatically assume they were scum. I’d say "Okay, they COULD be scum, but then again they also could be a normal citizen just under false pretenses or suspicion. I wouldn’t be so fast to say “Hmm, you voted for me, that’s a VERY shady thing to do.”
The voting right now seems random as nobody is in the lead currently with any votes. So unless three or four people start voting for you and piling up on you, I wouldn’t really start assuming every one of them is a scummy player.
Again, my vote isn’t set in stone and I’m constantly reading this topic. I’ll continue to do so all of today (since I just got on and tend to be online until night), and if I see anything that trips my buzzer (I am suspicious of others too), I’ll vote accordingly.
As for Projammer’s comment about role claims this early, ONLY people with real roles should claim to get out of lynchings. It’s counterproductive to the team for townsfolk to claim non-vanilla status. Anyone lying about their role should be treated as scum. If you’re a vanilla townie going to the noose, argue as hard as you can against your lynching, but do NOT lie. Because once you’re dead, and your town status is revealed, then the rest of us can comb over your earlier posts knowing that you were innocent all along. If you’ve lied about all sorts of stuff, that means you might as well be a scum, we have no new information.
So. Anyone who is proven to lie should get a date with the hangman. Maybe they’re not an automatic lynch if there are more important fish to fry, but you’re going down with all deliberate speed.
This is interesting. I wonder if past games/experience doesn’t play a huge part in how people could behave?
I’ve always noticed this as well. That the ones, when voted for, who say “Why are you voting for me? That’s random. Don’t vote randomly. Random is bad” always are or turn out to be scum. At least, that’s what I’ve noticed in other games before. It’s like a number one defense.
The first round IS always random (well, if you’re a townie/citizen that is, and even if you’re not, you’ll probably be trying to claim and acting like it’s random anyway), so that just leaves us with everyone looking suspicious in some ways… That’s just the way of the game. There’s not really anything anyone can do unless they over-analyze every post made and even then they could be creating ghosts in their own minds where there aren’t any.
Best is to just vote based on little things you’ve noticed, find out who was what when day is over, and gain further insight based on that info.
Ok now that is just silly.
Bolding mine
Which is it? Is it random, or are votes deliberate?
Do you not see the difference?
Random is bad. Voting based on little things that may or may not be correct is good. I don’t see what the problem is here.
I really need to think out my enitire post in advance rather than tripple posting. Oh well.
Anyone else wondering where **percypercy ** & **Lightnin’ ** have gone off to?
Yes, especially because they were the two to jump on DiggitCamara which is something that needs to be discussed further IMO. It’s one of several leads we can work on that might produce some results.
Random, which is what I said throughout that whole post.
Since it’s so random, the only thing one can do is find things that make sense to THEM, and thus, place their random vote (unless, of course, they know who is who and already know how the ground lies).
I don’t think so. In the other game, FCOD was playing completely differently and had a relatively low post count and a very different post style. In this game, NAF is among the leaders in posts among players and, while I haven’t agreed with everything she’s said, none of it pings my scum-dar.
UM…he. I’m a he.
Hi Gadarene, I am online and have PM’d you about replacing Achren, if no one else has beaten me to it.
Of course we should, but for some reason challenging the way someone approaches basic gameplay strikes me as more likely to review a power role (because someone with extra abilities is going to play in an entirely different manner than one without) than scum at this point.
Plus, fluid seemed to be coming on really, really strong. She claims that she’s an agressive player, which I’m willing to accept for now, but since nobody’s in danger of being lynched I’m going to preserve my right to be suspicious. 
tirial:
Nope; you’re the first!
Updated player list:
- fluiddruid
- NAF1138
- CaerieD
- ComeToTheDarkSideWeHaveCookies
- Hal Briston
- nesta
- Projammer
- percypercy
- SnakesCatLady
- Lightnin’
- Lemur866
- tirial
- Blaster Master
- Millit the Frail
- Rachm Qoch
- DiggitCamara
- dnooman
- Kyrie Eleison
- Omi No Kami
- Idle Thoughts
And here’s our list of reserves, to be subbed in as needed. I’ll be instituting a similar “no lurking” rule as NAF did last time, so we may need you folk.
- glee
- MadTheSwine
- Malacandra
- threnodyangelfire
If anyone else wants to be put on the reserve list, let me know.