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Wow. I am really surprised about Kyrie Eleison. I was so sure he was scum, but I guess now the detective makes a little more sense. I pegged at him for not being more decisive and not posting that much, but now it makes sense.
In my own defense, I feel I’m way too easy of a target here - intentionally so!
I’m basically the only person who suspected Kyrie Eleison, and flat out told him I thought he had posted the scummiest post this game. I all but directly told him I was planning to vote for him this round (which I was at the time). He’s voted for me twice. If I’m scum, doesn’t that seem, well, really really obvious? Mafia knows that I’ve been “suspected” since Day One and I’m an easy lynch target.
Let’s remember that the Detective only had one night to investigate. Not everything can be a breadcrumb.
Now, it’s up to you guys who you think he investigated. Personally, I think it’s likely that he investigated Projammer - the one who escaped the lynch last time. This takes Projammer off my suspicious list at least for the time being. However, there’s a good argument to be made that he could have investigated Blaster Master - the reason for the odd “anti-FOS” statement - or dnooman and not myself. In fact, objectively, I’d say I’m probably third likely to have been the one investigated, if it was indeed one of those 4 - Projammer being the most likely, and Blaster Master, given the odd statement (with no real backing) about him being Town, second most likely.
Fortunately, I think the Mafia made a misstep here, as Projammer could still have been a likely lynch candidate today, and seems like he was trusted by the Detective (rightly or wrongly). But, if they can get me down, as one of the more active townies, they will still have succeeded in getting the third lynch in a row.
Let’s remember, Kyrie only voted for me very late in Day Two, and, only when Snakecatlady voted. If she hadn’t, would he have targeted me at all? Maybe it’s just that he knew Projammer or dnooman was town. After all he did FOS me back in Day One - far before he could have investigated me.
Because the only role that had been claimed that wasn’t dead was Projammer as a Do-Gooder, and there’s no sense going after what seemed like a decent lynch candidate (and a now-irrelevant power role). After all I doubt they knew that Kyrie was the Detective. How could they, at this point?
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This really doesn’t strike me as convincing in the least. You’ve done a nice job of summing up perfectly believable reasons for Kyrie to have investigated someone else, but I really don’t see how this specifically addresses tirial and my accusation. It’s true that, based only on the trust list, there’s an equal possibility of Kyrie having investigated any one of you.
HOWEVER, you’re really starting to stink of deception here. On day 1 you were making other people answer extremely simple questions of strategy that you could’ve easily figured out for yourself, which could’ve been a smart way of finding scum or a dumb way of finding power roles. Either way, a player coming out of the gates with that much enthusiasm struck me as a bit weird. So I voted for you on day 1, but later got talked out of it.
However, I have to note that since then you’ve been significantly less vocal when it comes to making others explain their strategy. Again, it’s possible that you quieted down to avoid mob scrutiny… but it’s also feasible to think that you were quieting down to avoid making anyone else suspicious.
Finally, as I already mentioned, the way you’re answering two measly votes is extremely suspicious. We’ve seen, on more than one occasion, players who quite reasonably analyze and criticize the reasoning others have used to vote for them. It’s simple, and it has the added comfort of letting others analyze logical holes in both the accusation and the defense. You, on the other hand, seem to be trying to change the topic: two players out of a much larger number say “Hey, fluid could definitely be the one Kyrie investigated,” but as a response (and please correct me if I’m characterizing your above post poorly) you replied “Well yea, but there are other people who could’ve been investigated”. That’s extremely reasonable. But then you tried to change the subject by following your analysis up with:
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For now, I’m not really sure which tactic to take. I’m suspicious of Omi no Kami - very fast to jump on me without really any analysis of why other than the shock of losing the Detective so early. But, I think it will be worth me going back through some old posts, as I don’t think Projammer is scum at this point, and nobody else really has gotten a lot of votes lately. Still not sure on Lightnin though.
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That’s all fair, although I’d argue that my reasons for voting for you again were perfectly clear when I voted: I thought you were suspicious on day 1, and other factors changed my mind. But as the game has gone on you’ve done very little to convince me you’re innocent, and taken a few actions (summarized above) which make me worry you aren’t.
And so I might be paranoid, but your response is so indirect (yea, I might be scum. But other people might be too. Think about THAT!), and you follow it up with that last paragraph which comes off as stunningly insincere to me: it looks like you’re making a particular point of looking for suspicious activity, so we’ll notice. And the only ones who would have a reason to do that would be scum.
I’m not anywhere near convinced you’re guilty, and in fact I’d say I’m only 40% convinced. But I just wanted to mention how many alarm bells your response raises for me. ^^