[QUOTE=Blaster Master]
I have to say, in light of the fact that CapnPitt is inexperienced, as I laid out in one of my recent posts, it’s very likely that he’ll interpret an argument as necessarily being between two people of opposing factions. That is, this is a mistake that could easily be pro-town motivated by simple inexperience. I hate to do this, but for those who are familiar with the Day Two fiasco of M2, I was one side of a disagreement over strategy which ultimately led to much of the rest of the town either taking sides, or assuming one side or the other simply must be made primarily of scum. In the end, I “won” because I had a trump card (I was the Vig, which was easily testable to the town). The reasoning that SOMEONE in the argument MUST be scum, led to the lynching of who I found out in subsequent games, was actually an intelligent player. Meanwhile, the scum pretty much sat back and watched us rip at eachother.
My point is simple, not everyone can be measured by the same ruler. For instance, these actions may be a classic scum tell because the motivation is clearly favoring scum, but only so much that he’s experienced. Thus, both an experienced townie and an experienced scum would avoid such behavior knowing, for the townie, that it was silly, and for the scum, knowing that it would reveal his scummy motivations. IME, newbies, particularly scum, will tend to be very hands off, particularly in a case like town in fighting, because labelling one as necessarily scum would clearly lead to some guild on his hands when both were eventually lynched and neither turned up scum.
Thus, I’m inclined to believe, if anything, that his actions show a slight tendency toward newbie townie mistake than newbie scum mistake. However, I’m not really inclined to think it’s anything more than a null tell, because of the following scenarios surrounding how he’d be scum:
CapnPitt is the Boss - I would guess a new player with a recruit power would almost certainly use it, with or without any understanding of the numbers, they’d likely simply not one to be one-shot and he’d want an experienced player for insight an advice. Now, I’m unsure if a new recruit gets any time to converse or not before the Day starts (I’d assume not), but if they did, he’d have the advice of an experienced scum, or he’d either have faild the recruit or not have been able to speak to him, in which case I imagine he’d continue to lay low. Being “distinctly in the middle”, as NAF describes him, again, only appears to be low to an experienced player who understands how posting patterns can play out.
CapnPitt is a recruit - Without regard to why the Boss may or may not have chosen him, the Boss COULD provide some advice and guidelines before the Day whether or not they could actually speak before dawn. I’d especially expect information with regard to how they should seperate themselves, and how they should treat common scenarios (particularly disagreements amongst townies). IOW, I’d expect he would have been given some advice on avoiding those very sorts of statements.
Bottom line, had someone like you, NAF, had done what he’d done, I’d be all for getting some information out of him. However, given his predicament, I just can’t see the traction for scummy motivation here.
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I understand your argument, but I am not sure that his newness totally exonorates him. The distancing himself from his own arguments, the staying in the middle of the pack. to me that says scum *as well as * inexperience. I would rather see him lynched instead of Mennochio or Pleo who I don’t see as being scummy at all right now. It isn’t just that he fell into the “one of these players must be scum” fallacy (which I could dismiss as just being new) but how he posted about it and how he has been posting generally. To me that all reads as scum.
Cap, the way you will change my mind is by a) dying or b) surviving long enough that other players are scummier than you. It’s early in the game and one (in my opinion) big scum slip means more at this stage then it will later on. If you aren’t scum you don’t have anything to worry about becasue the worst that can happen is you will get killed.
when he’s right, and his towniness will be dependant solely upon his Daytime play and reasoning.