Mafia: The Mob is Recruiting [Game Finished]

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[QUOTE=NAF1138]
I understand your argument, but I am not sure that his newness totally exonorates him. The distancing himself from his own arguments, the staying in the middle of the pack. to me that says scum *as well as * inexperience. I would rather see him lynched instead of Mennochio or Pleo who I don’t see as being scummy at all right now. It isn’t just that he fell into the “one of these players must be scum” fallacy (which I could dismiss as just being new) but how he posted about it and how he has been posting generally. To me that all reads as scum.

Cap, the way you will change my mind is by a) dying or b) surviving long enough that other players are scummier than you. It’s early in the game and one (in my opinion) big scum slip means more at this stage then it will later on. If you aren’t scum you don’t have anything to worry about becasue the worst that can happen is you will get killed.
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Fair enough, I just don’t see it. My only concern is, if he IS new, he’s also likely to make additional mistakes. Similarly, for reasons I already laid out, I’m disinclined to vote for Pleonast at this time, and the mutual distrust between him and Menocchio strikes me much more as townie in-fighting than as potential scum trying to run a pro-town power role to the gallows.

That said, I’ve not been satisfied with Hazel’s responses, so I’m content to leave my vote there for the Day; however, I also feel that a lynching on Pleonast is not in the town’s best interest. That is, I figure given a choice between a likely power role, and an unknown, I’d rather see the unknown get lynched. So, if the choices remain unchanged, I will likely end up changing my vote in protest. And, with the nod to, Storyteller as brought up by MHaye, with the understanding that I didn’t find him the most scummy.

Still, I’d like to see SOME other options besides Menocchio and Pleonast, because I feel like we’re digressing back to the false dichotomy we’ve had in so many other games. I would like to see what people’s thoughts are on my analysis of Pleonast’s motivation for his claim, if they’re still convinced is most scummy and, if not, who else they would like to examine in our limited time… we have about 18 hours, right?

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Busy weekend for me too. Will be back after a complete reread.

sinjin

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[QUOTE=Millit the Frail]
Mod question: What is our schedule, now? I thought we were going back to ending the days on Wednesdays and ending the nights on Fridays. I think I missed something somewhere…
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My apologies. I have been a little busy, and had to get the game going a little faster than I expected due to the unexpected opening of the forum. :slight_smile:

Due to work constraints, I would prefer not to have the Day end on Wednesday and Nights end on Friday. I hadn’t realized I had left these in the original post at all, to be honest, or I would have updated (it’s updated now). But, I won’t be changing the game clock as I posted this information earlier Today and at Dawn, as well as in the game summary post, but neglected to update the OP. Again, my apologies. If anyone has significant problems with this schedule (since I don’t want anyone to be upset that they signed up and now have a conflict), please PM me ASAP. Any changes to the game clock from here on out will only be extensions to Days and Nights, no shortening, so don’t be afraid. :slight_smile:

To recap:

Day Two has begun. The sun sets on Tuesday, March 4 at 11am Central time, less than twenty-four hours from now.

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Vote tallies:

Pleonast (7) - Hockey Monkey, Menocchio*, Freudian Slit, bufftabby, (Diomedes), Millit the Frail, OneCentStamp, Darth Sensitive
Menocchio (5) - Diomedes*, dotchan, CapnPitt, Pleonast, Idle Thoughts
CapnPitt (2) - NAF1138, chrisk
HazelNutCoffee (1) - Blaster Master, (chrisk)
Freudian Slit (1) - Hawkeyeop
bufftabby (0) - (Idle Thoughts)

Has yet to cast a vote on Day 2:
MHaye
Santo Rugger
Koldanar
HazelNutCoffee
Hotflungwok
sinjin
Hal Briston

Game master note: Please note that ever player must have at least 3 posts by the end of the Day as per the rules. I will be checking after the Day ends. No lurking!

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Vote Freudian Slit, mostly that people will see that she had a few votes when they look back at the final tallies in a Day or two. Something about some theory I had that I don’t really remember right now that had to do with Pleo, but I think we should let him live for now because he might actually be a Priest (although I think he should know better, but whatever…)

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Regarding CapnPitt and his “classic scum tell” as delineated by NAF and others. I realise that it’s an easy sort of mistake to make, but just because the Capn is new doesn’t mean that he’s not also a Mafia man. I want to believe him but a little voice in my head is saying “You thought that about [name removed to protect the guilty] too, but they turned out as nutty as a fruitcake[sup]1[/sup], and they dropped a classic scum tell too.”

So right now I’m going to vote CapnPitt.

Of course last time I followed up on something I’d noticed, it was the first time the tell was wrong. I think when my scumdar was built, they included a special doubt-inducer circuit.

My position on the front runners is that it’s better to lynch an unknown than a claimed power role with immunity to recruitment. Thus I may consider tactical voting if the situation warrants near the deadline.

[sup]1[/sup](The game flavour was that the scum were escaped inmates from a lunatic asylum.)

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I’m voting OneCentStamp.

For tossing out a Pleo vote and posting nothing but fluff toDay. I’ve read over the thread, and I know this is probably a scummy thing to say, but all the squabbles I noticed seemed more likely to be town/town than anything else. I’m thinking, if I were scum, the smartest thing to do would be to lay as low as possible for the time being. Therefore at this point I’m more inclined to vote for someone who’s kept their nose clean. There are several among us who fit this description, but the way OneCent just off-handedly voted for Pleonast and disappeared stuck with me while I was re-reading, so that’s where my vote is going.

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My takes on the largest vote-getters:
Pleonast is scum because he used female pronouns: Beyond silly.
Menocchio thinks Pleonast is lying: Well, I think Menocchio, but I’m not sure that that qualifies him as scum.
CapnPitt and the “one or the other is scum” bit: Not a good move. Yeah, that is a big scum tell. Could’ve been a rookie mistake, but…

Vote CapnPitt

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]
I’m voting OneCentStamp.
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flips you a 100% townie bird

double barrel, in fact

.|.. :mad: ..|.

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OK, that probably wasn’t very helpful.

I voted Pleo for the simple reason that I don’t believe much of what he’s said so far, including his Priest claim. While I’m not sure he’s scum, he’s the most suspicious poster I’ve seen so far, and I’d rather take the chance, even if it is only a chance, of hanging the right person rather than do nothing, since inaction benefits the Mafia AFAICT.

I’ve read the thread with avid interest since placing my vote, but I’ve seen nothing that inspired me to comment, much less change my mind.

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MafiaFest I’ll be posting this on the proboards as well.
Right now, I’m sticking with my vote. My second choice is HazelNutCoffee, for oddly defending Pleonast.

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Vote tallies:

Pleonast (7) - Hockey Monkey, Menocchio*, Freudian Slit, bufftabby, (Diomedes), Millit the Frail, OneCentStamp, Darth Sensitive
Menocchio (5) - Diomedes*, dotchan, CapnPitt, Pleonast, Idle Thoughts
CapnPitt (4) - NAF1138, chrisk, MHaye, Hal Briston
Freudian Slit (2) - Hawkeyeop, Santo Rugger
HazelNutCoffee (1) - Blaster Master, (chrisk)
OneCentStamp (1) - HazelNutCoffee
bufftabby (0) - (Idle Thoughts)

Has yet to cast a vote on Day 2:
Koldanar
Hotflungwok
sinjin

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I suggested a plausible explanation for his actions, if that’s what you mean by defending. Hey, you went through the Conspiracy thread to see if his claims were true as well. You just interpreted your results differently. Call it confirmation bias on both our parts.

I still don’t think he’s scum, but that has nothing to do with the whole pronoun kerfluffle. I’ll say it again - I thought the pronoun brouhaha was a tempest in a teacup. Your persistence in pursuing the issue is interesting, but like I said, at the moment I’m more interested in digging out the people who haven’t gotten involved in the various skirmishes of toDay.

And on a completely different note, I find it really aggravating that both frontrunners for toDay’s lynch don’t seem to ping my scumdar at all. Then again, my scumdar never did work that well, so I suppose at this point we’ll just have to see how it goes.

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Sorry, the above is addressed to HM.

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After a re-read and some notes, I don’t think I feel comfortable voting for Pleonast based on what is probably my over-eager scumdar. So: unvote Pleonast. Instead: vote CapnPitt. His post where he let loose several FoSs (one in my direction, but that’s not part of my reasoning) just didn’t ring true. Sorry, that’s vague, but I’m tired, and I wanted to be sure to get my vote in on time. I can elaborate if necessary. Just not right now. Need sleep.

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Yeah, I gotta.

Vote CapnPitt

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Sigh. I also feel like unvoting Pleonast now, mainly because I can see the reasons against. I’m also scared to death of lynching a townie. And odds are, he’s a townie. We’re almost all townies. That’s kind of awesome, it means the odds are very much in our favor for winning right now.

However, the odds are still VERY SLIM that we will lynch a scum. It’s the converse of this great advantage. We’re probably going to lynch a townie no matter what. Why, Millit, you ask, does this even matter?

In past Mafia games, we will often have a good 20-25% chance of hitting scum randomly, and still, we’ll get to the 4th-5th Day before lynching a scum. The scum don’t often stand out at the beginning. This could be the exception, but I feel like we’re going to keep barking up the wrong trees for a few Days until there’s some crucial info revealed.

At this point, I like HazelNutCoffee’s reasoning for voting OneCentStamp, but I don’t think that’s going to go anywhere. I could totally go for randomly lynching someone who’s been flying under the radar right now–it seems more fruitful than lynching any of the top contenders. So I’m going to cautiously step back. I can stay on my computer pretty much up until sundown, excepting a few hours to sleep. I’ll place my vote before then. sorry if I’m kind of incoherent.

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Unvote Pleonast**

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By my count, Pleonast and Menocchio are now tied. As I said before, I’m not ecstatic about voting for Menocchio, because my gut is he’s vanilla townie, but being the second option, and an unknown, I’d still rather see him lynched than Pleonast. As I’ve already made clear, I’m not content with the votes for CapnPitt. Is this the second Day that hotflungwok did a flyby vote onto a mounting bandwagon without any supporting reasoning? That alone is probably enough to put him above my current suspect of Hazel. So, I’ll state it plainly, I’d prefer to leave my vote on Hazel or, in light of hfw’s pattern, put it there, but I think it’s still in the town’s best interest to make sure someone get’s lynched, and preferably a lesser claim or an unknown than Pleonast.

So, I will unvote HazelNutCoffee and vote Menocchio with the understanding that I will check tomorrow prior to 1100 (CST, right?) to either see Menocchio’s claim and reconsider my vote, or see that he didn’t claim, and lynch him against my better judgment.

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I didn’t want to do this, because I didn’t want to jeopardize Menocchio’s place as #2 (after the claimed Priest), but it looks like Cap’n is becoming as good a target, with much better reasoning than Menny.

unvote: Menocchio
votify:CapnPitt

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Strictly in order to try to save my skin:

unvote: Menocchio
vote:Pleonast