Hal’s statement is in post [post=9563783]890[/post]. In it he says :
If that’s a Masonic claim, there are only two Masons, and there’s a good argument that two Masons should claim, because their power lies in their mutual ability to confirm each other.
That one person could also be the Bishop. If the Bishop chose to use his one-time protection on Hal last Night, and Hal was a vanilla Townie, then Hal had a 50% chance of becoming ordained. From the rules, it’s not clear whether the Bishop knows if he ordains the person he prayed with, but he certainly knows who he prayed with last Night. If that wasn’t Hal, then the Bishop now has it in his power to expose Hal as a liar. If that wasn’t enough, if the Bishop ordained someone else (or does so at some later time) the newly frocked Priest also knows (or will know) Hal is a liar; and there’s far less risk in exposing a Priest than the Bishop.
Consequently, I’m going to accept Hal’s claim (subject to counterclaim).
I’m also (absent other evidence being stated) going to assume our other claimants told the truth for the moment. That leaves me in a bit of a quandary about who to vote for. Today has not been fruitful, and the only residual suspicion I had from Yesterday was Mennochio. And there are things to do by the deadline.
I’m going to look at something that snagged my attention late last night before all this exploded.
From past experience, the best way to present future investigations that turn up Town-aligned is to say that the player is Town-aligned, and say no more. That way we know what sort of role you determined, and you have taken steps to show us where the subjects loyalties lie, but not what their exact role is - thus leaving some uncertainties that keep the risk of recruiting that player for the Mafia. (After all, they know which side the player’s loyalty lies already.)
Regarding Meno’s role claim and my vote for him… I’m not sure I disbelieve him, but I’ll have to think about it before switching my vote. Will do my best to get back in here before dusk.
Also, I was wondering last night whether it would actually be a good pro-town strategy for power roles to role claim as the WRONG roles in order to confuse the Boss - a high profile recruitment target claiming holy orders, or a priest claiming as somebody who would be highly recruitable. Of course, then the question becomes if their credibility is shot afterwards and they can’t convince the town of their true investigations or something like that.
Pleonast is a priest DrainBead is the Detective Mennochio is the Doctor Hal is a priest ordained by the Bishop
hotflungwok is a townie (at least as of Yesterday) or the Boss mis-identified as a townie.
DrainBead knows something about someone else but isn’t telling yet
There are only 2 or 3 mafia
unvote Hal because the Bishop hasn’t come out and denied he prayed over him.
NETA: My vote for **NAF **is based on my previous FOS, his admitted smudging of BlaM and something else I can’t put my finger on right now. Damn time is short here.
Well, Hal, I’m not going to make you my new confessor or anything, but, for now, I’m going to believe your roleclaim is possibly true. (Damn, this means the dancing is gonna have to wait, doesn’t it? Meh, I’m gonna bust a move here and there anyway.) unvote Hal Briston. I’m moving on to the other person I FoSed earlier: vote dotchan. I gave my reason earlier: she said she didn’t have time to be more than a lurker (this is paraphrased throughout-no time to find quotes, I gotta go to work) because of modding the off-board game. NAF said “huh”. She didn’t respond. I FoSed her for lack of response. She replied that she thought posting more was a response, so whatever. And then she has continued to barely post at all. So, by her definition AND mine, she has still basically not answered that charge.
It seems we have a bunch of one-off votes at this point. I’ll have to leave in the next 30 minutes to go to court, and I’m not sure if I’m going to be back before end of Day. Can we get a vote count?
I know, I know. Sinjin just seems to be trying to hard to appear townie to me. The problem is it isn’t really an arguable case. What is Sinjin going to argue that he isn’t really acting that pro-town? I’ll try to articulate it better later, but I wanted to get a vote in.
Ah but I didn’t just vote on the ‘gut feeling’ as I think I mentioned. The suspicions started then, but I just kept a closer watch. With Pleo also feeling uncomfortable with your motivations, it was more for me to consider. I seem to have already caught the broken Dope Scumdar.
unvote Menoccio. As of right now, I’m not sure I feel comfortable voting for anyone, as all my suspicions have been knocked down for this day with the role claims. I’ll be in the corner, crying.
I don’t know about worst, but if all the claims are true, hopefully this gives the vig a bit more info than he / she had at least. A lucky night kill could get us all excited
Ok, I don’t want to wait to the last minute and there’s only a little more than 2 hours left in the day. I’m a Mason. And possibly the worst mafia player ever.
