I’ve gotten pretty good results using magnets for relief of back pain, but you have to use some uber-powerful magnets to get results. I used to have a couple of 20,000 gaussers, but I lost one and accidentally sold the other. (Loaned it to a coworker, and he liked the way it worked so well, he didn’t want to give it back, so he gave me the twenty bucks the thing had cost me instead.)
I don’t know that magnets would actually cure anything, but for localized pain, they do seem to work pretty well, at least in my experience.
Of course, magnets do have their downside. Once I was waiting for a bus, and got too close to a lamppost and stuck myself to it.
I have been using magnetics for treating water for 20 years, and the company I was purchasing from had recently introduced super powerful health maintenance magnetic therapy, so I wondered what the take was on this field.
Granted, there will always be quacks, and reading about Doctor Barrett, he is not even a medical doctor, so it is not surprising where he got his business name from. After all, psychiatrists treat quacks, and I have known quite a few who were quacks themselves. (g)
What does amaze me having read responses and links posted which does show many ongoing studies regarding magnetism. This only demonstrates to me that we still don’t know everything about the subject.
One note of interest was in regards to conditioning water, and I have to disagree with that post as I have seen water retain an induced magnetic charge for hours, thereby recirculating water as a treatment has been extremely effective to reduce scaling. We have also used magnetism to soften water for better absorption into soils before compression in our soil stabilization technologies. When you make water wetter, it compresses around soil molecules much more effectively that without treatment. This I can see in black and white without question.
I am not closed minded enough not to want to learn more, so thanks for the input. What I would really like to know is this, having tried several forms of magnetic therapy, without trying to cure any desease, just enhance our bodies cellular health, I witnessed two amazing results personally, so naturally, I did not beleive it at first, so I wondered if there were some more recent breakthroughs that I was not aware of.
If you can demonstrate magnetization or similar measurable effects on modifying water repeatedly, you can easily win the JREF $1,000,000 prize - not to mention a Nobel or two. They’ve offered the challenge in response to similar claims in the past, and what you are describing sounds like it would be easily empirically testable.
I recommend you head straight over to their challenge page and sign up to win your million.
If you can demonstrate magnetization or similar measurable effects on modifying water repeatedly, you can easily win the JREF $1,000,000 prize - not to mention a Nobel or two. They’ve offered the challenge in response to similar claims in the past, and what you are describing sounds like it would be easily empirically testable.
I recommend you head straight over to their challenge page and sign up to win your million.
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Now that was funny, parranormal challenge? Heck, all you have to do is look at water molecules under a microscope and watch them breakup from eachother when water is passed through a specific magnetic field. No parronormal mystery here. (g) We have been treating water for commercial cooling towers for over 20 years. No rocket science here. How many studies and independent reports do you want?
I don’t disbelieve you, but it’s been a while since I’ve done any chemistry, so there’s some things I need clearing up. For instance, I didn’t think you could see individual molecules under a microscope. And while I can see a magnetic field affecting water (water is slightly dissociated) I don’t see how water’d retain any magnetic field, as how would you get any molecules or ions to line up in a liquid without a magnetic field on it? And wouldn’t it quickly acheieve equilibrium again afterwards?
I had some Magnetic Therapy for a slipped disc on my lower neck and it didn’t help a little bit. Later, I had some neck stretching done and that helped. But I don’t put any faith in the Magnetic Therapy scheme. I too think it is bullshit.
Water itself has many molecules, silica, minerals, iron, whatever, and these are what is being influenced by a specific magnetic field when water flows through it. You are right, distilled water would not be impacted one way or another. Water which is high in mineral content is affected most, and these are the molecules I was referring to.
According to everything conventional physics and everything we know about magnets, it is not possible to induce any permanent changes in water by passing it under a magnet. Water is not magnetizable. If you can demonstrate that plants treated by “magnetized” water grow faster, or even any consistently detectable diference between “magnetized” water and “nonmagnetized” water, you’d be able to win the JREF prize, and make a major scientific impact.
Iron is ferromagnetic. It will attract a magnet and become magnetized. Iron compounds, on the other hand, usually are not ferromagnetic. Aluminum is paramagnetic (cite) and water itself is diamagnetic (cite) but I doubt either of them will retain any magnetism.
FreeHomes might want to specify that he is referring to particles of matter, not molecules.
Treating water with magnets for the pupose of decreasing the amount of scale has been done for many years. Its efficacy is open to debate. According to researchers at Cranfield University, they can, in certain situations, reduce scale by up to 70%. But they do point out a lack of success when carrying out controlled experiments.
A more skeptical view is held by csicop, but they also acknowledge that there is some anecdotal evidence to support it.
Of course, none of this has anything to with the way magnetic fields fail to interact with the human body.
BTW, I have two friends studying (fluids) maths PhDs who’ve done a course in magnetohydrodynamics. I think it normally concerns the flow of electrically conductive fluids in a magnetic field, though I suppose water with enough ions in might count.
