Yeah, I saw them back when they were still cool with Birthday Shoes, Rusty Shackleford’s Conspiracy Theory, HMS Beagle, Rusty Rudder and the Stovepipes, Throatstroke, Thousand Yard Chair, The Pillowfuckers, Huge Ackman, Slowfast, Genuflection, Stinkerbell, Cambrian Explosion, Stan’s Sausage Party, Spiderfist, Hootin’ Andrea, Slather, Atom and Eve, Jakeleg, We All Fall Down, The Musicians, Hail Hail Howard Hawks, Fresh Snow, Weekend Gig, Hatchet Wound, The Climb, The Homicidal Yodelers, Bully for Bradleysaurus, The Fish, Upper South Side, Kill Steve’s Band, The Durn Furreners, and Ham Pie.
Also, I know Christian rock is generally pretty bad, but you should check out the new breed of indiecore/Jesuscore fusion bands out there, like Deuteronomy 23:1, Jesus Shark, Reserection, The Whores of Babylon, Tastymint, Adam And Not Steve, Agaping, St. John Thomas, Apostle Emily, Crucifriction, The Original Sins, Nazarene Tambourine, Last Brunch, Hosanna Roseannadanna, Grace Mace, Jesus Horse, MC Five Ft. Eight Inch Jesus, The Methodists Next Door, Darned to Heck, Mary Magdalene’s Black Book, and The Begats.
I was into that stuff for awhile, but it all just seems so trendy now. But if we’re talking live shows, I still kind of like Pascal’s Wager, The Burning Bush, Onan’s Sin, The Beatitudes of Pastor Jake, Original Sin, Double-Edged Sword, Ted Seth and Eddie in the Lion’s Den, Samson’s Beard, Two Loaves of Mana, Sunday Evening Reprisal, Caughtcha Sinnin’, Song of Solomon Greenberg (convert), Rebuild the Temple, Isaiah 55:12, Doubting Thomas and the Disciples, Holy Handgrenade, Jump! For Christ, Nebuchadnezzar’s Bane, Midnight in the Garden of Gethsemane, The Hem of His Robe, Altar Wine, The Carpenters, Parting the Pink Sea, Raise Your Cups for Noah, The Righteous Brothers, Bright Shining as the Sun, Fishers of Men, His Beard is Our Beard, Sackcloth and Ashes, and The Graven Images.
Pastor Jake and Two Loaves of Mana (formerly Manna From Topeka, Casting Lots, and Water Into Whine) are pretty good. Sunday Evening Reprisal sold out since they started playing the Nashville non-denominational church circuit.
Along the same lines, you might want to check out the up-and-coming east suburban Cleveland indiecore/klesmercore fusion scene. There’s some great groups out there, like Mohels With Scissors, The Mahjohng Hooigans, Shofardi, The Meshuginauts, The Thirteenth Tribe, Fercockt, The Beachwood Defense Forces, Yids With Lids, The Wise Rabbis Of Chelm, Temple Beth Greenberg, Plague Of Dachshunds, The Yellow Schvantzes, Uncle Morty’s Buick, North of Cedar, Moanin’ David, The Trefcats, Sheet In The Hole, The Shtetl Outcasts, Gefilte Fishing In America, The Heebie Jeebies, and Torah! Torah! Torah!.
To be honest, I haven’t been keeping up with a lot of those guys (although I do kind of like Fercockt, who used to be Fagin the Shrew.) The only band I ever really got into in that scene was Schwoogie Button.
Lately I’ve been dabbling in the underground nuevo-retro geekcore revival out of Cedar Rapids. Bands like Niels Bore, Absolute Zero, The Proton Pumps, ALH840001, Marvin the Paranoid Farmhand, Electric Tomahawk, Video Update, Maize Glaze, C6H12O6, Butane Reading Lamp, Organic Water, The Pocket Projectors, Staph, The Roflbots, Selfish Jean, Harry’s Alkyl Group, Ion Eyes, Pathetic Equation, Steering Toward Entropy, Poison Water Table, Beekerfore, The Brown Note, Masturbation Vacation, Tammy’s Ford Contour, and The Screaming Subsideez.
Jokes aside, I have to say that I actually like “mainstream” music, and the most “alternative” I get are things that could be considered “B-sides” from mainstream artists.
I’ve tried listening to “indie” music, and you know what- I’ve never liked any of it. I realise many people do, but I don’t. And you know what else? On the whole, I find Commercial Radio/Music TV broadcasts to be an excellent crap filter. Sure, a lot of the stuff on them is crap too- but it’s also a lot better than the stuff that’s not getting any airplay.
Look at it this way: If Band X was genuinely very good, they’d have found a way to get some exposure to a wider audience than that found at the local pub.
It just doesn’t work that way. When deciding what gets airplay, clearchannel (and they are the main determination of what makes it and what doesnt) gathers a test group togeather in a room and play the songs for them. They are asked what songs would make them likely to change the station…not what songs they like. By process of elimination that leave only the ones that are least offensive, take the least risks, and simply provide background noise.
The really creative, talented musicians, IMHO, are the ones that are some people hate, and some people love. Those bands now never stand a chance and all we are left with is the mediocre.
Some of the bands the OP listed are world class musicians, and some of them tour nationally. But they will never get the recognition they deserve because they stand out from the crowd a little too much. I think that sucks. If you’re happy with it, more power to you.
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This rant may have been relevant… say in 1988, but in 2010? Really?! Dude, this rant is so old. We used to complain about this in the 70’s or 80’s when we had very limited choices.
But today, with the proliferation of the internet, satellite radio, digital music, etc.?
You are living in an age where you can finally buy, share, and listen to whatever you want, without influence from the mainstream, record companies, or marketing companies!
WTF do you want anyway, you’re own favorite bands to become popular and enter the mainstream so they get radio airplay? Believe me, you don’t! Please see 1991.
One day you’ll realize that your own personal music taste is not as important to others as it is to you. So enjoy it, support your favorite bands, go to shows, festivals, etc. and share it with your friends… but don’t even bother with other people’s musical tastes, they will never “get it” like you do, especially those millions of bubblegum teenage girls and the guys with loud car stereos trying to impress them, who are eating it up.
I just ran across this website that lists tons of underground band names, arranged in different categories. (On the website you can click on the names for more information, but I didn’t bother to do that.) Here are some:
A white goatee, Alabama primaries, Another Craigslist Idiot, Austrian coin, Babies release date, Back after a brief absence, Bakers Dozen, Best College Football Helmets, Brown Recluse Spider bites, Canadians and doughnuts, Carniverous Pad Thai, Connecticut election, Cooking dry beans, Cute baby animals at zoos, Darksiders, Edmonton Dopers, Electricity Generated, Engaged to Paul In Qatar, Family Trust, Five G Planet, Fuck you Pakistan, German Monarchists, Glass vs. acrylic, Halloween in Cleveland 2010, Hoarders, Jumbled Sequential Threads, Meg’s ebay, Mushroom hunting, New Mafia game, NFL and the wishbone, Philly and Santa Claus, Pledge to America, Plike, Pro bono bullshit, Speaking of Civilization…, Special Characters, Stupid Republican idea of the day, That cliché 50’s style film music, the 2 baseball strikes, The Guild, The magnets made me do it!, The Virginia Tech Chokies, Two Earths tidally locked, Upcoming games, Wall Street Too, and Whence the Tea Party…
These are pretty good, but are clear derivatives of The Floss Dailies, Asymmetrical Haircut, Iron Supplement, Loose Leaf Tea, The Sunday Bests, Sidewalk Chalk, Unexpressive Expression, The Fighting Scottish, and Subpar Apex Predator.
Which is all a lot of people want. Being “Good” also includes (IMHO) “Being able to get your product out there”. (Generic) You could be the greatest short story writer the world has ever known, but if no-one ever gets to reads your stories and they languish on your USB stick in perpetuity, I’d say you aren’t “Good” at being a short story writer.
Same thing goes for music- your band might be more awesome than the Beatles, The Rolling Stones, Elvis, and Led Zeppelin put together, but if you never play a gig larger than your local suburban pub, then you’re not “Good” at being a band.
Being “Creative” and “Talented” still doesn’t make you “Good”, and if people hate what you do then I’d say that’s the polar opposite of being “Good”.
Wow…what a bland view of art. It’s like elevator music. Some people really love country and hate rock, and some people really love rock and hate country, but nobody I’ve ever met actually likes elevator music. It’s just chosen because it is less likely to piss off either the country or rock people.
Like I said, several of the bands the OP is talking about fill halls with thousands of people. They tour nationally, they do make it past the suburban pub. But they aren’t bland enough for clearchannel. Back in the olden days, you would have several rock stations, several country stations, so if one station played really bland music people could change the channel and that station would go under. Now clearchannel owns every station in a given market, so they are only interested in what is bland and unoffensive.
nonsense. If everyone hates what you do, then your write. Lots of people loved Zepplin, lots of people hated them. I hated AC/DC but they were good at what they did and many people loved them. It wasn’t because they were bad, it was because they weren’t to my taste. It’s like if all the ice cream shops in town only had vanilla.
I’m not in the US, and there are several radio stations here in Australia (most notably Triple J) which almost exclusively play “non-mainstream” music. There’s a very… eclectic mix of music on Rage (ABC’s Music Video programming)
Add to that the “Self-publisbable” abilities of computers and the internet, and I maintain that, if despite all of that, you’re still not getting any exposure to a wider audience, it’s because you like being an obscure indie band and the obscure indie band lifestyle, or- more realistically- your band just isn’t very good.