It doesn’t make sense that they’er saying the aircraft “might” have turned back over land. The transponder code would have been picked back up by ATC as would the general radar signal. It should have been a matter of record in addition to what military radar showed. It either few back over land or it didn’t. Both radar systems would have at least recorded a blip at the same time and if the transponder was on they would have a positive indication.
Thanks. I guess that makes sense.
The wife and I have been there multiple times. But now that I think about it, it could have been Mexico and they were just pulling our legs.
The latest thing I hear they’re checking out is back near the original search area. A New Zealander working on an oil rig in the ocean east of Vietnam sent an e-mail reporting he saw something burning in the sky about the time in question. They’re going to check out that report. It would be about 300 miles – or was it kilometers? – east of the southern coast of Vietnam.
It’s kilometers. Three hundred kilometers southeast of Vietnam’s Ba Ria-Vung Tau province:
**"Vietnam’s air traffic management earlier said it had received an email from a New Zealander working in one of the oil rigs off Vung Tau.
“‘He said he spotted a burning [object] at that location, some 300 km (200 miles) southeast of Vung Tau,’ deputy general director Doan Huu Gia said.”**
(Although 300 kilometers is more like 186 miles.)
so now we have a probable cause and maybe a vector from the sighting. Hopefully Vietnam military radar picked up something. between the 2 there is the potential for a triangulated point to focus the search on.
Sure, but the 300 km is just an estimate, so sticking with one significant digit and putting it as 200 miles seems better to me than the degree of precision 186 miles suggests.
Inevitably, the story has attracted its share of nonsense:
Behold the fruits of this amazing spiritual power:
That quote goes very well with your sig, Steve MB.
I swear I’m going come up with a macro to type this out for me:
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A malfunctioning transponder can send out erroneous information that ATC finds distracting. ATC will then request it be turned off to avoid confusion.
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In the event of an electrical short, fire, or other serious problem being able to turn off a device can either resolve the problem or keep it from becoming worse.
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If, for some reason, power is sharply limited being able to choose which devices to switch off can be a good thing.
further quote from Ibrahim Mat Zin: “We use fish trap hook and a bamboo binocular to look and ask for the victims to be found as soon as possible,” he told reporters here today.
Well, yeah, but they don’t paint “This is an illicit runway!” on it in giant letters. It looks like any other road or driveway or flat slab building foundation. Heck, you don’t even need to paint lines on it or run power to it if you don’t to do that. It looks like any other big slab of concrete.
Certain types of flat landscapes don’t even need that - one reason Edwards Airforce Base is used for flight testing is because a significant part of the local desert is hard-packed enough that a big plane can land off-airport without needing to develop a runway.l
Ok, say there is an instant depressurization. The first thing pilots must be trained to do is to get an oxygen mask on before they do anything else. And my understanding is that if there is only one pilot in the cockpit (the other perhaps having stepped out to use the bathroom) it is required that the remaining pilot wear a mask.
I’m reminded of the Payne Stewart ghost plane incident in '99. It’s still apparently not clear as to why the pilots received no supplemental oxygen when the plane lost pressure.
A possible sighting on the Tomnod crowdsourcing site. Looks half-convincing, and scale looks right, but equally could be a boat wake (or two boat wakes?)

I’m reminded of the Payne Stewart ghost plane incident in '99. It’s still apparently not clear as to why the pilots received no supplemental oxygen when the plane lost pressure.
The NTSB report is quoted here.
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[A] possible explanation for the failure of the pilots to receive emergency oxygen is that their ability to think and act decisively was impaired because of hypoxia before they could don their oxygen masks. No definitive evidence exists that indicates the rate at which the accident flight lost its cabin pressure; therefore, the Safety Board evaluated conditions of both rapid and gradual depressurization.
If there had been a breach in the fuselage (even a small one that could not be visually detected by the in-flight observers) or a seal failure, the cabin could have depressurized gradually, rapidly, or even explosively. Research has shown that a period of as little as 8 seconds without supplemental oxygen following rapid depressurization to about 30,000 feet (9,100 m) may cause a drop in oxygen saturation that can significantly impair cognitive functioning and increase the amount of time required to complete complex tasks.
A more gradual decompression could have resulted from other possible causes, such as a smaller leak in the pressure vessel or a closed flow control valve. Safety Board testing determined that a closed flow control valve would cause complete depressurization to the airplane’s flight altitude over a period of several minutes. However, without supplemental oxygen, substantial adverse effects on cognitive and motor skills would have been expected soon after the first clear indication of decompression (the cabin altitude warning), when the cabin altitude reached 10,000 feet (3,000 m) (which could have occurred in about 30 seconds).
Investigations of other accidents in which flight crews attempted to diagnose a pressurization problem or initiate emergency pressurization instead of immediately donning oxygen masks following a cabin altitude alert have revealed that, even with a relatively gradual rate of depressurization, pilots have rapidly lost cognitive or motor abilities to effectively troubleshoot the problem or don their masks shortly thereafter. In this accident, the flight crew’s failure to obtain supplemental oxygen in time to avoid incapacitation could be explained by a delay in donning oxygen masks of only a few seconds in the case of an explosive or rapid decompression or a slightly longer delay in the case of a gradual decompression.
A Learjet is a pretty small plane and would lose its oxygen far more quickly for a given-size leak than a widebody.

A possible sighting on the Tomnod crowdsourcing site. Looks half-convincing, and scale looks right, but equally could be a boat wake (or two boat wakes?)
So THAT’S what Rush Limbaugh was talking about…flipped over to him when I was in the car getting lunch, and he was making fun of people for looking for the plane on Google Earth. Idiot.

So THAT’S what Rush Limbaugh was talking about…flipped over to him when I was in the car getting lunch, and he was making fun of people for looking for the plane on Google Earth. Idiot.
Well, no. Lots of people were searching for MH370 on Google Maps, leading Google to gently point out that its imagery isn’t live.
Tomnod has been getting the latest imagery for people to look at. The site is painfully slow, and a few minutes of looking will convince you that finding a plane out at sea is not quite as easy as all that…

Well, no. Lots of people were searching for MH370 on Google Maps, leading Google to gently point out that its imagery isn’t live.
Aw, that makes me sad for humanity
Now China is saying they have satellite imagery of things that could be parts of airplane wreckage in the original search area. Satellite imagery that was taken Sunday morning.
CNN says the imagery is nearly directly South of the Southern tip of Vietnam.

A possible sighting on the Tomnod crowdsourcing site. Looks half-convincing, and scale looks right, but equally could be a boat wake (or two boat wakes?)
I just found that and tagged it too.

Aw, that makes me sad for humanity
Makes me sad that some of them can vote.