Malaysia Airlines 777 Missing

Now I think about it, pilot suicide / mass murder makes the most sense if you consider that this whole mess we have going on now was completely intentional. If you just send out some screed to news agencies before leaving then fly the plane into the ocean, well, that makes a statement, but most everyone would have stopped talking about it a week ago.

On the hand if you make the plane seem to “disappear”, it becomes a huge event that’s in the news for weeks, while making the government you hate look like a bunch of incompetent fools. That’s a considerably bigger statement.

Seems unusual that the Australian PM would make such an announcement.

Well it’s his search territory and it is news I suppose. They’ve got something to have a look at.

It’s also just before the nightly news in the biggest Australian cities.

Besides, everyone else has been an expert, so I guess it’s his turn.

Link to the Sydney Morning Herald - a reputable paper.

They are doing a live feed.

Or just google SMH and follow the obvious trail

And link to the ABC news service, which is our government/public organisation and even more reliable/less sensationalist. It has no connection to the US ABC news :slight_smile:

they have a reporter on board and he said they had started a descent.

so they probably found it? what is happening?

they’re getting radar hits now.

He’s a politician. Naturally he’ll want to bask in the reflected glory of any successful identification of the missing aeroplane.

My thoughts exactly. Tony Abbot is using a piece of information to gain publicity and profile in the Australian and international media. This mystery is not a political issue and IMHO it is grossly cynical for any politician outside Malaysia to use it.

Do we know any more than before he spoke? No. There have been numerous sightings of possible wreckage over the past ten days but they have not proved out. So why raise hopes once again? - why not wait until the Orions are overhead and actually find something.

NZ now has an Orion in the area too.

Hush, you. He’s a suppository of all wisdom.

lol DEPOSITORY?
or yes, suppository.

It’s definitely suppository.

:slight_smile:

Just going back a step, could Richard or anyone enlighten me on data transmissions please? This is a great discussion but I’ve become confused.

  1. Passenger aircraft transmit an identifying radio signal from the transponder. Is that a ground based signal or to a satellite?

  2. Apparently Rolls Royce jet engines independently send engine performance signals to Rolls Royce. Correct? If so, how often and are these aimed at a satellite or ground stations?

  3. The ACARS system is fitted by the manufacturer (Boeing) and sends simple packets of information about the aircraft depending upon what the airline decides to pay for? Ground or satellite?

  4. The ACARS system is able to be switched off/disabled but has an independant power system that allows it to respond to a signal - handshake?

  5. Why is the likely path calculated from the satellite in a curve rather than a circle? I do understand the gap represents over the horizon.

Transponder is ground based.
ACARS is satellite based.

can’t get live feed off net.

let us know what info is valuable.
i am sick of thinking of this thing.

It could explain a lot if you have information that suggests shots were fired at the plane from a 6th floor book depository window.

CNN has a live blog updated with up-to-the-minute (mis)information:
http://cnnworldlive.cnn.com/Event/Missing_Malaysia_Airlines_Jetliner?hpt=hp_t1

Looks like conditions are not favourable over the southern ocean, plus its night-time. The Orions are long range aircraft capable of 9 hour missions but they are so far from land in these circumstances that 2 hours is the most time they have. Wonder if they could set down at Diego?

That’s about twice as far away.