LLamas are larger than frogs.
At the possible expense of turning this into a real discussion, there is a valid question hidden in the OP: If we can turn genius towards one subject, which would be smarter/wiser: understanding atoms and gravity or understanding the society in which you live? Which would you be able to directly affect with that know how?
The answer seems obvious to me: understanding and manipulating your society. Maybe it is clear that Malcolm X could never have solved the problem of the atom, but isn’t it just as clear that Einstein couldn’t solve the problem of people? In the end, which one did the greater good?
Of course, Malcolm X got shot so maybe he wasn’t that big a genius with people.
If Malcolm were better at physics, he could have quickly plotted the trajectory of the bullet and dodged out of the way.
(Too soon?)
It all depends on what your goals are; there’s no way to evaluate the smarts or wisdom of either without context, and no two people would agree on the context. IMO, it’s a meaningless question.
All of the OP’s many similar threads suffer from two fatal flaws:
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[li]The idea that you can compare two extremely complex and often unrelated things without definitions or context[/li][li]The refusal (or inability) to back up any assertions with evidence or logic[/li][/ol]
I suppose, but generally the basic human drive is to improve one’s lot in life and an enlightened human drive is to improve life for many people - I think X and Einstein shared both. To some degree, Einstein was fooled into supporting the development of the atom bomb. I wonder if Malcolm X was ever so profoundly fooled.
They both ripped off Elvis.
Arguably, he was fooled by the militant stance of the Nation of Islam. When he returned from his hajj, he was moved by the inclusion of whites and people of all colors in muslim rituals and customs.
Now, don’t go making this an actual, worthy conversation - I wouldn’t know how to react to one of these OPs ;). To your point: many tech advancements are pivotal in enabling social change. The printing press, the internet - both have dramatically expanded the ability for voices to be heard. The evolution of same-sex marriage from wedge issue to largely accepted by the majority of the US is an example where social change was greatly enabled by tech.
This is the worst premise I can remember. Though maybe if I was as smart as Malcolm X I’d remember more of them.
You say that, but only one of them got shot ![]()
Certainly. I have a hard time drawing a comparison between Einstein’s theories to such innovations, however. Maybe if we were all sitting with safe nuclear reactors powering our homes I could see it (well, some places are doing just that but mostly not). But in the end, most of relativity doesn’t touch us. Newtonian physics covers most of the bases.
What? I can only guess that you mean artificial insemination enabled the acceptance of same-sex marriage. Is that your contention?
By an odd coincidence, I’m just now listening to a radio program in which actual working physicists that are active today are discussion the importance of general relativity. All of them have talked about just how incredibly complicated it actually is, and that they didn’t really fully understand it until after they’d been learning about it for several years.
Also, to everyone participating in this thread, I highly recommend that you review thanatic’s posting history - at least the threads he’s started - so you have an understanding of the kind of territory this thread is likely to cover.
Ohhhhh, it’s Black Woman is God guy. Or girl.
Ann is 1.82m, and Bob weighs 98kg. Who’s larger?
Also “27 different threads in which I declare that mathematician X is better than mathematician Y, but don’t ever bother to make an argument” guy.
Yep, that’s him.
CarnalK, I am not speaking to Einstein specifically, but to Science brilliance vs. Social Science brilliance in general. The Internet was developed by Einstein-type folks, yet it was a main channel through which SSM advocates found each and coordinated their efforts and made their voices heard. So a Tech advance enabled Social change.
Just my observation: a lot of people major in sociology, or humanities, or communications, because they can’t tackle math or physics. And being able to talk smoothly, or turn a phrase does not indicate superior intelligence.
Only tramps do that.
I’ll settle for how he treats his subordinates.
If you were serious about starting a Frost allusion war, you’d have pointed out the two errors in my quote,
Hmm, I am aware of and mostly accept the idea of the internet as “modern printing press” but I am perhaps less on board with the idea that it is more important than the people who actually use it for social change. After all, the opponents off SSM used the same mediums.